Pwoblèm Ayiti: responsabilite yon grenn krityen vivan? (1)

Pwoblèm Ayiti: responsabilite yon grenn krityen vivan? (1)

Postby Pitit Ginen » Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:47 am

Bagay-yo ap pran yon lòt faz sou nou la. Gwo menas fèt. Nèg fache. Yo pa ezite mande pou zòt ta elimine. Franchman, mwen pa kwè, nou ka pati yon diskisyon solid nan sans sa-a. Eske pwoblèm Ayiti, se responsabilite yon grenn krityen vivan? Ann pati ak kesyon sa-a.

Gifrants wrote:Son inaptitude de créer, sa mauvaise foi en matière de gestion, et sa malveillance vis-à-vis de son peuple, font soulever mon indignation car je suis un patriote, et un bon Haitien.


Li rete klè ke sityasyon peyi-a an degraba : lavi chè, blakaout, dlo pou moun sèvi, fatra, ensekirite, koripsyon elt. Poutan, si yon moun ap fè bonjan refleksyon, èske se yon grenn endividi, mouche Aristide sèl pou nou blame? Anvan tout bagay, fòk nou ta koumanse analize sityasyon ekonomik-la li menm. Daprè enfòmasyon moun ka li nan jounal, gouvènman Etazini-an, nan pra
n pou paravan swadizan denonsyasyon ke apatrid san vègòy nan Konvèjans-yo ap fè, bloke tout kòb ke Ayiti te sipoze resevwa kòm èd ak kredi nan men ansyen kolon-yo, piyajè-yo. Nan nimero Sept-Oct. 2001 jounal Foreign Policy gen yon atik "The man who broke the bank" ki eksplike aklè kouman Etazini kontrole tout enstitisyon finansyè entènasyonal-yo, an patikilye Bank Mondyal ak Fon Monetè Entènasyonal. Se moun ke Etazini rekòmande bay-yo ke yo prete lajan.

Pandan n' ap kritike dirijan nou-yo, li enpòtan anpil pou nou fè atansyon ak gwo enbesilite, awogans, konpòteman kolonyalis, manipilasyon ak pwopagann sinik ki blayi nan sistèm ekonomik ak politik entènasyonal-la. Se vre ke m' ap toujou kondane dirijan lokal-yo, pase yo gen pou devwa eksplike aklè bay tout nasyon-an kijan bagay-yo ye. E yo pa fè sa. Si Aristide te resevwa èd ak kredi e li pa t fè anyen ak lajan sa-yo, la-a kritik ki gen rapò ak koze realizasyon epi jestyon-an ta p kenbe. Men, kolon sinik-yo mete yon anbago sanginè sou peyi-a a
k konplisite yon dal vomisman chen ayisyen. Nou paka ignyore pati sa-a. Mwen pa gen okenn respè pou yon seri de dirijan afriken ki resevwa pakèt milyon dola nan zafè petwòl, min elt, men ki poutan kite prèske tout popilasyon lakay-yo nan malpwòprete. Alòske yo nèg sa-yo posede pakèt chato nan prèske tout kapital peyi blan-yo, menm eleman yo rele Senghor-a te nan bagay sa-a (Jounal Jeune Afrique chaje ak referans sou koze sa-a. Al fè yon koudèy nan kèk atik ki te pibliye nan lane 1996). Aristide pa nan sityasyon sa-a.

"Aristide pa gen kapasite pou-l fè yon mèd." Pou-l fè kisa ak kisa? Yon gouvènman paka fè yon peyi vanse si pa gen bonjan aktivite ekonomik nan peyi sa-a. Sitou nan ka Ayiti kote gouvènman-an pa gen gwo resèt nan zafè taks. Se pa pou anyen, menmsi sijè sa-a pa t mennen okenn brase lide, mwen te demontre nan "De la passivité à la practibilité" ki kantite sektè ekonomik ki merite devlope nan peyi-a alòske, kit s ak anndan, kit s ak deyò e ki gen gwo mwayen nan men-yo, chita y' ap
voye toya sou gouvènman. Yon gouvènman pa Bondye, nan sans ke Bondye gen tout solisyon nan men-l.

Menmsi Aristide vin ak koze responsabilite sitwayen ayisyen-yo nan yon move kontèks, li rete klè ke si Ayisyen pa met men pou yo envesti, pou yo rekonstwi ak ede s ak nan pa bon-yo, lè-n pase je-n, peyi-a ap fin efondre pandanke nou chita nan voye toya senpman sou dirijan. Si gen envestisman konsekan k ap fèt nan peyi-a epi pa gen lwa ki pou ankouraje ak pèmèt ke aktivite ekonomik sa-yo pwofitab pou pèp-la nan konbat koripsyon nan administrasyon leta-yo, nan moman sa-a, se je fèmen m' ap choute sou leta-a. Men nan ka Ayiti jodi-a kote ke sitwayen ki gen mwayen-yo pa enplike-yo prèske nan lavi ekonomik peyi-a; nan moman kote prèske tout resous peyi-a ap gaspiye sou pye, li difisil pou nou kesyone bòn fwa dirijan-yo. Sof s ak te konn resevwa gwo lajan nan men letranje, men ki pa t konn fè anyen avèk lajan sa-a apa voye-l al mete nan bank swis.

Ki movèz fwa? Ki malveyans? Pwoblèm gwangou. Pw
oblèm fatra elt. Men, Fòk nou ta fè bonjan envestigasyon pou-n konnen pouki pwoblèm sa-yo pèsiste konsa anvan nou bay vèdik final-la. Pouki gouvènman-an pa oubyen paka enpoze-l nan fikse pri manje nan peyi-a? Pou-l ta fè sa, fòk li gen lajan pou-l sibvansyone pwodwi premyè nesesite-yo. Fòk tou li ta ankouraje pwodiksyon agrikòl nan peyi-a nan mete sou pye yon politik agrikòl serye. Eske-l gen lajan pou-l ta fè sa? Si zanmi k ap kritike-yo te ka pote repons sa-a pou nou, anpil je ta jwenn limyè nan mitan pakèt blakout voye monte-yo.

Ann Ayiti gen yon veritab absans de sa-n ta rele "jounalis repòtè". Tout tan w ap li nan jounal oubyen tande nan radyo ke gen pwoblèm adwat agoch, men w pa janm wè chif ak analiz chif sa-yo ki pou ta montre aklè kisa pwoblèm-nan ye vre. Pifò jounalis nou-yo jis konkante-yo voye monte bri lari-ya. Ki pwojè ki genyen nan tèl ministè? Ki bidjè tèl ministè? Konbyen kòb yon minis touche? Konbyen anplwaye ki genyen nan tèl ministè? Ki pousantaj kòb anplwaye sa-yo to
uche nan bidjè ministè sa-a? Ki kantite èd oubyen kredi ke peyi-a resevwa? Kouman lajan sa-yo pataje ant ministè-yo? Eske minis-yo ak senatè elt touche twòp nan peyi-a? Si tan kòb ta retire sou nèg sa-yo, konbyen pwojè-k te ka reyalize ak li. Jan nou ka wè-a kesyon-yo anpil e enpòtan ki pou ta ede-n konprann sa k ap pase nan jestyon yon gouvènman. Poutan nan jounal nou-yo, w pa janm jwenn repons detaye sou kesyon sa-yo. Kidonk, jijman nou kòm obsèvatè vin limite anpil. Gen yon gwo vid-la ki pou konble. E nou menm ki deyò oubyen anndan k ap panse fòk nou lonje dwèt sou vid sa-a ki merite konble oubyen kontribye nan konble vid sa-a.

Gen koripsyon. Se sèten. Men kouman nou evalye koripsyon sa-a? Nèg k ap volè lajan leta? Gwo lajan? Oubyen nèg k ap fè koutay? Si se koutay, se tout kote bagay sa-a ekziste. E mwen pa kwè li ka elimine fasilman. Men si se gwo lajan. Wi nou ka kondane tout gouvènman-an, Aristide an tèt. La ankò, yo pral kondane daprèzavwa yo pa mete gwo vòlè sa-a anb
a kòd, boure-l nan prizon. Eske gen ka de gwo vòl nan peyi-a? Mwen pa okouran. S ak okouran vin ak prèv-yo. Pase rimè-yo fò nan peyi-a ke Aristide vòlè kòb leta pou l' al bati chato nan Taba. Kot prèv sou vòl ke Aristide komèt-yo? Gen lòt ki di-l nan dwòg. La-a kat-la brouye nèt (Mwen se yon Lavalasyen wouj. Vye fanatik Aristide. Se sa kèk zanmi gendwa panse. Non frè. Se lojik ak prèv m' ap mande ki pou gen dènye mo nan deba-yo).

Mwen pa kwè nou ka jis konsa deklare pou yo elimine Aristide san nou pa di pouki e vini ak prèv de "le poukwa". Ann sipoze ke tout moun lage-yo nan tèt cho sa-a e deside sakrifye Aristide san jijman, kot altènativ-yo? Kilès ki kredib sou teren-an? Si-n elimine Aristide fòk nou met yon moun nan plas-li. Se kilès? Nou menm ki pral elimine-l la oubyen yon lòt gwoup anndan peyi-a? Aristide n' est pas la fin de l' histoire d' Haiti. Certes. Men, an nou pa wè Aristide, Lavalas oubyen Konvèjans pou yon moman. An nou mande kijan e kouman, nou menm Ayisyen pr
al kontribye pou nou fè peyi nou mache. Pase se Ayisyen ki pou fè-l menmjan nou wè anpil Ganeyen ap envesti nan peyi-yo, retounen al travay nan peyi-yo. Kijan sa pral fèt : kesyon mete peyi nou-an sou de pyel-la? Kijan? Mwen rete konvenki ke elimine Aristide p ap ede-n wè pi klè nan kesyon sa-a. E si ta genyen-k panse ke touye oubyen elimine Aristide pral pèmèt peyi-a devlope, ke-n detwonpe-n. Ayiti pa gen yon pwoblèm endividi, se yon pwoblèm moun kifè peyi-a ap efondre depi dyab te kaporal.

Tout Ayisyen-k pou ede Ayiti vanse!!!


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Postby Serge Bellegarde* » Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:57 pm

Pitit Ginen,

Ou pale yon seri koze se lò yo ye. Mwne dakò avèk ou nètalkole se tout Ayisyen ki pou mete tèt ansanm pou. Istwa gen Ayisyen tankou Mèt Gifrants ki panse se sèl Ayisyen ki konsekan ki ka fè yopn bagay, sa pa fèt pou vin sou tapi a ditou ditou. Se youn nan pi gwo kritik mwen genyen kont Opozisyon an pa egzanp. Olye yo sèvi ak sipò entènasyonal yo genyen an pou travay pou mete peyi a ak pèp la sou pye, yo pito ap rayi yon nèg epi bloke tout bagay. Yo pa gen kapasite pou pan pouvwa, men yo gen kapasite pou enmède e yap enmède. Mwen pa janm wè yon gwoup entelektyèl ki politikman pi enkonpetan pase sa.

Nou menm Ayisyen gen anpil tò nan kote Ayiti ye koulye, men en menm tan, se yon gwo lerè pou gade evolisyon Ayiti san ou pa konsidere wòl peyi tankou Etazini, LAfrans, Anglete elatrye nan bloke peyi depi nan komansman.

Antouka, mwen te vle senpman repete avèk ou ke toutotan nou pa mete tèt nou ansanm e nou sispann ap
mete reskonsabilite sou yon moun, nou gen yon pakèt rale pou nou fè.

Kenbe fèm!.

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Gwo pyèj pou moun ki renmen Ayiti tout bon vre...

Postby jafrikayiti* » Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:45 am

Pitit Ginen,

Monchè tankou lot kanmarad yo, mwen apresye tèks ou a anpil paske li manyen yon gwo dilèm k ap toumante bil anpil militan depi kèk ane. Mwen kwè Ezili manyen dosye sa a tou nan tèks li yo ak anpil ladrès. Ki jan noumenm nou ka mete presyon sou lidè nou yo pou yo pa vann nanm yo, san nou pa ede kolon yo demantibile mouvman pwogresis la pi plis toujou.

Ou ekri:

Pandan n' ap kritike dirijan nou-yo, li enpòtan anpil pou nou fè atansyon ak gwo enbesilite, awogans, konpòteman kolonyalis, manipilasyon ak pwopagann sinik ki blayi nan sistèm ekonomik ak politik entènasyonal-la. Se vre ke m' ap toujou kondane dirijan lokal-yo, pase yo gen pou devwa eksplike aklè bay tout nasyon-an kijan bagay-yo ye. E yo pa fè sa. Si Aristide te resevwa èd ak kredi e li pa t fè anyen ak lajan sa-yo, la-a kritik ki gen rapò ak koze realizasyon epi jestyon-an ta p kenbe. Me
n, kolon sinik-yo mete yon anbago sanginè sou peyi-a ak konplisite yon dal vomisman chen ayisyen. Nou paka ignyore pati sa-a. Mwen pa gen okenn respè pou yon seri de dirijan afriken ki resevwa pakèt milyon dola nan zafè petwòl, min elt, men ki poutan kite prèske tout popilasyon lakay-yo nan malpwòprete. Alòske yo nèg sa-yo posede pakèt chato nan prèske tout kapital peyi blan-yo, menm eleman yo rele Senghor-a te nan bagay sa-a (Jounal Jeune Afrique chaje ak referans sou koze sa-a. Al fè yon koudèy nan kèk atik ki te pibliye nan lane 1996). Aristide pa nan sityasyon sa-a.


Kanmarad, sa ou di la a se gwo koze nètalkole. Sèl sa mwen ta ajoute sèke, atitid manfouben nou obsève lakay dirijan Afriken yo, nou obsève li malerezman lakay dirijan Ayisyen tou. Se pa lajan petwol nèg lakay yo aksepte men, sa fè san nou bouyi lè nou wè kijan anpil nèg ni nan Lavalas, ni nan OPL, KID elatriye - nèg ki konnen fen e byen ki ajannda fos kolonyalis yo ap rapousuiv, kite tanta achte gwo kay monte nan tè
t yo.

Fenomèn "granmanjè" a, se pa yon fiksyon li ye malerezman. Pandan nou te Ayiti nan ane 1997-98, nou te gen opotinite wè anpil vagabon ki pran woulib sou mouvman popilè a, pou yo prelase ko yo nan yon seri kay ak machin ki pa achtab ak salè nomal yo. Vle pa vle, konpotman malpwop sa yo kontribye anpil nan demobilizasyon andan peyi a.

Jounen jodi a youn an pi gwo dilèm nou genyen anfas nou sèke baz mouvman pwogresis la demantile nan yon pwen kote dosye enpotan tankou "kwape koripsyon nan aparèy leta a", "Pwoteje tè peyizan" kont apach (maribahoux elatriye)...vin pèdi priyorite yo, devan yon tentennad "kriz" san pye san tèt.

Kanmarad, anpil bon zanmi kritike mwen paske yo wè tèks m ap ekri pasi pale pou denonse ajannda sektè ki vle retounen ak Lame Dayiti, ak pouvwa "de doublure" mèsenè bodmè yo ak anbasad Etazini nan peyi a. Yo di, tèks mwen yo ede kase fèy kouvri sa parapo a koripsyon k ap pete fyèl mouvman Lavalas la an jeneral, Fanmi Lavalas an patikilye. Gen nèg ki menm di, fok no
u ta vag sou fete 2004, denonse demand restitisyon an kom demagoji, denonse legalizasyon Vodou an kom demagoji. Kidonk, pa bay anyen gouvènman an fè kredi.

Mwen rete kwè nan tout konba, chak batay gen priyorite pa yo. Kidonk, se poutèt sa mwen prefere bay gouvènman Lavalas sa a kod toujou nan anpil dosye - paske franchman, si sete san kontrent, san pèsekisyon MoUnPa yo ke nèg yo t ap deremete nou pèfomans yo ap bannou la a, fok mwen ta premye nèg k ap voye woch deye yo pou nan eleksyon 2005 yo, popilasyon an ta ba yo kanè kanpe lwen. Paske an verite gen twop dezod ki pase devan je nou depi 1994.

Paregzanp, lè nou gade kijan se yon ti kolon kanadyen, David Lee, ki kounye a ap chwazi ki moun ki pou alatèt Polis Nasyonal Peyi nou, ki jan yon nèg dwe reyaji? Lapide Prezidan Aristide daprèzavwa li aksepte bay ti kolon an pouvwa ke li ta dwe egzèse natièlman an, choute sou David Lee k ap jwe wol prokonsil gang kolon yo voye li jwe a, choute tribo babo sou tout moun, menm popilasyon an ki chita kè kal
ap gade sa k ap pase a san reyaji?

Sa fè mwen reflechi sou dilèm abitan Los Angeles apre jijman Rodney King nan osnon lot moman kote popilasyon nwa a leve kanpe epi se pwop katye pa yo ke yo detui paske yo derefize rete enpuisan devan malsite yo konstate devan je yo.

Se konsa tou, mwen entèprete anpil nan chirepit ki pete nan mitan klas pwogresis la depi 1991. Menm fenomèn Gifrants ke nou viv sou fowom sa a a plizyè repriz deja, se sentom santiman enpuisans sa a. Kounye a, kouman nou ta dwe aji pou transfome enpuisans sa a fè li tounen POUVWA. Pouvwa ki pou resantre enèji nou nan yon direksyon pozitif, nan direksyon lidèchip ki gen fos transfomasyon.

Se yon gwo defi... Yon defi ki mande konbit. Paske tout bon vre, yon sèl nou fèb. Yon sèl nou two fèb. Men ansanm nou ka mèvèy !

respè kanmarad,

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Postby Ezili Danto* » Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:05 pm

One e Respe to all,

Pwoblem Ayiti se pa responsabilite yon grenn Kreyen vivan. Sa se kle.

Pitit Ginen writes and I quote,

“Pandan n' ap kritike dirijan nou-yo, li enpòtan anpil pou nou fè atansyon ak gwo enbesilite, awogans, konpòteman kolonyalis, manipilasyon ak pwopagann sinik ki blayi nan sistèm ekonomik ak politik entènasyonal-la.”

I think you are right and you give me the opportunity to further analize this point Pitit Ginen. For, without a complete understanding of what this mean, we Haitians will continue to destroy ourselves from within, the better to make our tormentors exploit our people. It’s central to analyze this calmly and with the appropriate information in order to move forward with the Haitian situation. Otherwise, the Black population tends to react against itself when face with injustice dilemmas because it is contained together in depressed areas by the exploiters and, as JAF points out, as in t
he Compton, LA riots, the Black population protested but it was their very own neighborhoods they destroyed. JAF says “…..popilasyon nwa a leve kanpe epi se pwop katye pa yo ke yo detui paske yo derefize rete enpuisan devan malsite yo konstate devan je yo.”

How do Haitians, the wealthy few, the wannabees, the diaspora, the simple peasant, how do we Haitians, of all hues and classes, move forward while simultaneously, publically exploring, and addressing our national divisions, weaknesses, pathologies (i.e. corruption, in Haiti, and our lack of a political history with civic duty) without continuing to make it easier for the powers-that-be to take advantage and exploit our situation? I think by starting to do a better job at looking outwards together. That’s my opinion.

I’ll explain why, using some parts of Pitit Ginen’s post at ONE and by going into some history and “globalization” particulars at TWO below.

Pitit Ginen wrote and I quote:

“Ann Ayiti gen yon veritab absans de sa-
n ta rele "jounalis repòtè". Tout tan w ap li nan jounal oubyen tande nan radyo ke gen pwoblèm adwat agoch, men w pa janm wè chif ak analiz chif sa-yo ki pou ta montre aklè kisa pwoblèm-nan ye vre. Pifò jounalis nou-yo jis konkante-yo voye monte bri lari-ya. Ki pwojè ki genyen nan tèl ministè? Ki bidjè tèl ministè? Konbyen kòb yon minis touche? Konbyen anplwaye ki genyen nan tèl ministè? Ki pousantaj kòb anplwaye sa-yo touche nan bidjè ministè sa-a? Ki kantite èd oubyen kredi ke peyi-a resevwa? Kouman lajan sa-yo pataje ant ministè-yo? Eske minis-yo ak senatè elt touche twòp nan peyi-a? Si tan kòb ta retire sou nèg sa-yo, konbyen pwojè-k te ka reyalize ak li. Jan nou ka wè-a kesyon-yo anpil e enpòtan ki pou ta ede-n konprann sa k ap pase nan jestyon yon gouvènman. Poutan nan jounal nou-yo, w pa janm jwenn repons detaye sou kesyon sa-yo. Kidonk, jijman nou kòm obsèvatè vin limite anpil. Gen yon gwo vid-la ki pou konble. E nou menm ki deyò oubyen anndan k ap panse fòk nou lonje dwèt sou vid sa-a ki merite konbl
e oubyen kontribye nan konble vid sa-a. “

I was most intrigued by this because though I’ve said the Haitian government lacks transparence, until this writing I had not thought much about the role of the Haitian media in Haiti. The above gave me pause to further consider the specifics about transparency and participation in Haiti.

But, as I indicate below, after evaluating the issue, unless we understand the all encompassing, far reaching significance of globalization, I think that although access to such information would open doors and one knows not where that opening might lead, even if the Haitian journalists and press could provide the population with all the information needed for making informed decisions and with access to budgets, projects and other such public information for debate, even if they were able to do so, in the final analyses, it would not help us with pushing forward democracy in Haiti. Because the status quo powers do not want the population to be politicized. Period. Th
ey would screw up the information in some way to misinform the public, keep them de-politicized, at each other’s throats and at impasse.

To address why this has come to my mind as I thought more carefully about the paragraph noted above, first, I’d like to refer to a book written by someone who knows much, much more about this financial colonialism subject than anyone else I know.

Below, I use Noam Chomsky’s book “Profit over People” and look at the following two propositions/statements of his as a foundation for my analyzes of the Haitian situation - that is, our problem with creating a participatory democracy, with transparence, and, with institutionalizing organized political activism.

Would those of you interested, kindly consider and give some thought to these two statements:

1. “Neoliberalism works best when there is formal electoral democracy, but when the population is DIVERTED from the information, access, and public forums necessary for meaningful participation in the
decision making.” (Emphasis added.)

2. The classical neoliberalist say that:
“Profit-making is the essence of democracy, any government that pursues anti-market policies is being antidemocratic, no matter how much informed popular support they might enjoy.” (See, the introduction by Robert W. McChesney to Noam Chomsky’s book Profit Over People, at pg. 9)

I cannot thoroughly address all I think this means to the Haitian situation, but I can say, unequivocally, that it means no matter whether the Haitian government is democratically elected by the majority or put in by force, the powers-that-be will do the same thing - exploit the majority of our people and keep us underdeveloped.

That’s the nature of financial colonialism. So, whether Aristide’s party is at the Haitian helm, or, a Coup d’Etat/civil war someday puts a military dictator at the helm in Haiti, for the majority of the Haitian people there will be no transparence and no participatory democracy, no true mobility of all so
rts; their rights will be circumscribed because of the very nature of the power system that vies for the life and resources of our nation.

For, as long as we contained-in-poverty, and/or also contained, because of poverty, solely within the Island, having no means for venturing back and forth, then, only the degree of oppression will change. It’s only a matter of degrees for the masses and classes in Haiti the level of the oppression. But the oppression is there whether or not all Haitians say No More Coup d' Etats and the opposition and Aristide reached a consensus. For, the white man isn’t going to suddenly go away and say, "oh, oh you beautifully, united, Haitian people, now that you’ve found a consensus, we white privileged men will stop trying to divide and conquer you the better to take you to the cleaners." Yeah right.

If Haitians keep at each other’s throats, it could just get worst for the Haitian people under a military dictatorship than how it’s been since the 1994-2003 return of f
ormal electoral democracy.
But the lash of US financial strangulation would nonetheless still be killing, in some manner or form, our Haitian men, women, and children. That’s clear and that’s why it is politically intelligent for the Haitian masses and classes, for all of us, to identify the central enemy to Haitian sovereignty and development and start looking outwards together.

For under their system, their wealth is used to divert the people’s attention from the true state of thing so the peoples grass roots organizations would be stymied, so the citizenry will not organize to exercise their democratic rights.

For instance, right here in the US, we too are only called-up to practice our democratic duties at election time. Then it’s ok for us to go away, for the transnational business community uses everything to maintain its control, even, for instance, the deaths of the 9-11 World Trade Center Americans. For, today for the US corporate media to mention that event has turn into a code fo
r the protection of the priceless rights of privileged white men to forge ahead their goals, of, as Bush puts it, of not allowing any global rival to US superpower dominance. We know the transnational corporations’ global leadership is protected by the “might,” the unparalleled strengths of the United States armed forces - their bases all over the globe and their nucleic media and political weapons. All this is used to squash any adversaries, including their own dissenting US citizens.

So, when I read Pitit Ginen’s observation about the lack of investigative Haitian journalists in Haiti, I thought of the US corporate “in-bedded” media in the Iraq war, the daily brainwash, all the diversions.

For, before Pitit Ginen brought it to my attention, if I thought about the particulars of the lack of participation and transparency in Haiti, I would think peripherally of the experiences many in the Diaspora have had with the Lavalas government in terms of participation, the dismal outreach, the tendency
to put more faith in white professionals to represent Haiti, the fact that the Haitian citizenry is not, at all, provided with consistent, non-adversarial ways and forums to meet, communicate and interact with their fellow citizens, except when there’s a crisis and the government needs public backing.

I primarily thought perhaps of the lack of resources for participation, like constructive public forums, neighborhood organizations, public meeting places, public schools, libraries, lack of special interest groups for a particular Haitian issue beyond Coup d’Etat or the prevention thereof. How we need more voluntary associations, truly organized trade unions, women rights groups and human rights groups with voices in the government. Those are real needs in order to institutionalize Haiti’s democracy. But now I’m understanding more clearly and sharply the deeper roots of imperialism’s reach when I evaluate the lack, in Haiti, of “journalis repote” within the context of the fundamental role (s) of the gl
obalization structure as expressed in the two statements in Chomsky’s book.

Now, that is not to say we in the Haitian society share no blame, we do.

Pitit Ginen points to this when he says: “Se vre ke m' ap toujou kondane dirijan lokal-yo… “

For there are always windows, cracks and fissures within the imperialist system to be pushed at, but Haitian society has yet to even begin developing a broad based independent or representative press and media, just as, in other sectors, there are no real functioning institutions providing the people with access, forums and information that they might reasonably make decisions and formulate opinions.

But leaving aside the general issue that we’ve yet to mobilize any real resources to carry out such a pro-democracy, community base PR apparatus in Haiti, or even the Haitian will and vision to do so, it seems reasonable to me that, in Haiti, as in the US, those businesses which could afford to advertise in a newspaper would not do so unless s
aid newspaper was espousing views or writing articles, the effect of which would be to support their vested interests. Perhaps that’s one reason why we only read about “bri lari-ya” in Haiti.

For, as we in North America know, it’s not only in Haiti that we are inundated with reporters who “voye monte bri lari-ya.”

Take the current US “bri lari” - the Martha Stewart indictment, the Lacey Peterson case, the current “reality” TV shows, the current Homeland Security terrorist alert levels, etc., that the mainstream investigative reporters are, incessantly, flooding into the public’s mind. For what purpose when people are losing their civil rights left and right under the Patriot Act (s); when people are dying because the pharmaceutical companies refuse to allow health reforms? Or, are these diversions to keep the population from concentrating on the bad economy, the lay-offs, recession. Or, is it to keep our minds off the various Enron-like corporate corruptions, felonies and their scandals.

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Could it be that it’s not only in the US the corporate community works incessantly to see that important issues of an egalitarian participatory democracy are never publicly debated?

If the main purpose of the media/press has become to support pro-business viewpoints, is it feasible to develop a formal representative or independent press in Haiti? How?

Pitit Ginen wrote, in reference to globalization that the Haitian Government has a duty to explain to the people the situation it’s facing under IMF, IDB, WTO, World Bank mandates, etc. He says “….yo gen pou devwa eksplike aklè bay tout nasyon-an kijan bagay-yo ye. E yo pa fè sa. “

No doubt. It is a responsibility which clearly they have been derelict and need to address.

I mean, you’re definitely right. I don’t believe the Haitian populace fully understands “globalization” beyond the concept of “privatization.” Beyond, that is, the demands for the Haitian government to sell off their assets - their State owned industries to (f
oreign) so-called “investors.” Beyond this, I doubt that a significant number of Haitians really understand that the IMF, WTO and World Bank, etc, in Haiti also want no state intervention in the economic growth of Haiti. Or, that their policies and loan conditions and trade mandates require the Haitian government to cut government subsidies (that is no reform or development whatsoever in Haiti), quell the democratic inclinations of the people, and establish an economic system to suit the needs of the few, not the many, by restricting organized political activism, and restricting unions and workers rights to better open up Haitian borders to unregulated free trade by the major Anglo-US/Euro powers.

But, which is more productive, showing the Haitian majority how globalization works and mobilizing towards defeating this system in Haiti overall; moving forwards together with suggestions about what we can do now with what we have in our hands; or simply just criticizing. That’s a rhetorical question. The a
nswer is obvious.

So, I’m wondering, could the Haitian citizenry be encourage, I mean be systematically encouraged by the Haitian government and the opposition, to tell of their common oppressors while working out their differences? Could both put out a call for help in telling this common ground side of the Haitian storyline, or, are we all so into our various power trips and vested personal interests, that the good of the people and nation is a side issue?

Could those various Haitian students, both in the Diaspora and especially those, san job, but with university degrees in Haiti be encouraged to use their education and do some public service reporting or organizing? One never knows where such independent initiatives might lead to, perhaps even to making a living someday from it. Wouldn’t this help the Government and our people with both participation and transparence? Wouldn’t this be a productive use of our enormous human capital? Is it possible? Just some ideas.

TWO:

THE
SYSTEM WAS FIRST CREATED TO EXPLOIT HAITIANS.

We know here in the Diaspora, that it’s difficult, well nigh impossible, even for the majority white population in the US, to step up to corporate dominance of everything. Imagine how much more difficult for Haitians in Haiti to do so with no resources, especially since the system was created to first oppress us - the first captives (slaves) to set foot, in chains and manacles, in their New World.

For, from a historical perspective, Haitians, like no one else, in this “New-World,” know well this rule by the wealthy few is not new.

Globalization is, as renowed investigative reporter, Greg Palast says in his book, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy," at p. 74, just “financial colonialism.” I say, it’s just the current mechanism the former slave owners and colonists are using to exploit the resources of the world’s peoples. It’s just the current way for the wealthy white men and their few colored overseers, to limit the political rights and civ
ic powers of the many.

This battle to oppress the many by the few has been going on for over 500 years, and, perhaps since history began.

But, in it’s current form as neoliberalism, it was started, as Greg Palast (at. p.75) points out, in the early 1970s by a Professor named Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago.

Said professor who was known to be driven about in a black limousine by a Black chauffeur “once opined from his high chair: Why are people attacking Rhodesia, the only democracy in Africa?”

That statement, Palast reports, (at pg. 75) was made at a time when the nation of Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, was controlled by Whites who then where 5% of the population, who, as Greg Palast points out, “kept the 95 per cent Black population in virtual slavery, without hope and certainly without the right to vote.”

This little history is just to point out the nature of the mindsets promoting neo-liberalism and its predisposition to target and prey on people of color the
world over for exploitation.

Back in the early 1970s, Professor Friedman and his like-minded cohorts trained budding bankers and, specifically, a group of mostly Latin American students, in the principles of neoliberalism (globalization) at the University of Chicago, in a workshop entitled the “Latin American Finance Workshop.” And, as Greg Palast says, these “budding bankers and dictators-in training …would later on, turn Chile into an experiment in torture and free markets.” (p. 74) Still, the apostles of globalizations, often point to Chile as an example of the glories of globalization.

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Add all this together and today, financial colonialism/globalization, is imperialism in modern form. Forget the high fluting economic mumbo jumbo, for it’s nothing more than where the governments of the former slave holders/colonists, especially the United States, push trade deals and other accords, like those espoused by the World Trade Organization, down the throats of the world’s people’s to
make it easier for corporations and the wealthy to dominate the economies of nations around the world without having obligations to the peoples of those nations. Call it any name, Reagan/Thatcher's “trickle down economy,” “supply-side economics,” or, “neoliberalism” – whatever. Its purpose is to maintain the status quo.

In fact, its proponents equate this form of capitalism with democracy, just as, back-in-the-day, they once thought the slavery-generated wealth of the industrialized countries was sane, progressive and egalitarian.

Of course we know it’s not.

Frankly the crux of the matter is: what their theories say it does, and what, in reality, it does, are diametrically opposed. Simply stated, “globalization” as applied by the Breton Woods organizations and their derivatives, is a duplicitous means of maintaining the same old same old.

Its apostles say the natural laissez faire, free market is democratic because everything is to be subject to said “free market system.”


EXCEPT, in reality, the effect of the application of their theories is that the free market system only applies to the poor, not to the wealthy few. Except, there’s nothing remotely democratic in a corporate hierarchy (no open access to information and decision-making.) For while these mostly right-wing proponents of the status quo are against social spending, government subsidies for education, health care, infrastructure development, protection of local industry on behalf of their citizenry, they want and expect, as their ENTITLEMENT AND PRIVILIGE, that, for instance, the Haitian government should funnel tax dollars to them, (i.e. to pay old dictatorship debts they’ve called in) rather than subsidize gas prices, literacy, programs to help with lavi che, grangou, etc. They want, for instance, for us to protect their markets for them from competition from, let say the poor Haitian farmer and miserable Madame Sarah vendor/merchant, or from any economic balancing or Haitian financial market regulations that
would take into account the Haitian people’s welfare.

In essence, governments around the world, like the Haitian government no, matter if it's a Lavalas or becomes a government from one of the Convergence opposition, all governments are required to work supportively on behalf of business but NOT supportively on behalf of the non-business sectors, which they have convince us all are “special interests.”

“Special interest” is everything except business of course. “Special interests” are consumers, Blacks, women, children, workers, people who want health care, better education, schools, public access, human rights or environmental protection. Turns out, if you look closely at “special interests,” it’s the majority of the US, and in fact it describes, the world’s population and citizenry.

Yet and still, most US investigative reporters, never mind, Haitian journalists or Haitian proponents of business interests, have bought into this system and rarely analyze the status quo’s claims. Not
many point out the free market doesn’t exist, except as I say, for the poor. For most of the State assets these companies want, for instance, for the Haitian government to sell off to foreign “investors,” are infrastructure businesses, which, by their very nature would give the new owners a monopoly. In fact, overall, markets are almost never competitive because massive corporations who own huge controls or monopolies over their markets shares DOMINATE most of the global economy. Companies like, to name a few, Warner, Sony, Wal-Mart, Citibank, Chevron Oil, Bristol-Myers Bechel or Halliburton (Haitians my recognize Halliburton in Haiti, as Brown & Root, its subsidiary.)

Turns out, if you look closely, the policies of NAFTA, GAT and the WTO with, among others, its Trade Related Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS), are not about trade, free market or democracy at all, but, as Palast says, are “a sly means to wipe away restrictions on business and industry, foreign and local.”

For, as Palast furt
her notes, “Once countries protected their workers and local industry behind taxes at national borders. In the new world trade order, global corporations may demand levies against nations which sell or buy products outside the zones they have marked out by brand names and market segments. The WTO’s penal system for prohibited importing and exporting goes under the psychedelic title TRIPS.” (at pg. 63)

According to the apostles of worldwide neo-liberalism (globalization) the role of government is simply to protect private property and enforce contracts. Political debate is limited to minor issues. That’s it. They are against any sort of social spending because everything is about profit, profit, profit and more profit.

This is the system the US media never loses a moment touting as the absolute best in the world, the epitome of human development.

So, that's why, it’s my opinion, that under this system in Haiti, any Haitian government which comes to power will be forced, not to work sup
portively on behalf of the poor and the working class, but only to protect the profit-making class. There isn’t any choice. This is what the globalization apostles see as “democracy.” A perverse understanding of democracy which results in a de-politicized citizenry marked by passivity or apathy and cynicism. Under this system, citizens who have no financial or other monetary value; citizens who are not within the profit-making loop are, in effect, worthless surplus, invalidated, useless, undeserving and surely incompetent.

So, if we Haitians clearly understood that these are the principles, the profit-culture, which we all are living under, then we could begin to see why we act, feel and react the way we do. We may easier be able to see there is a system out there, an invisible chain and manacle, now called “globalization” with its influence on, not only the economy and politics, but on our mainstream culture(s), education and media sytems, etc. That elsewhere, as in the US, the public relation indust
ry, the business community, the academic ideologues, the intellectual, the reporters, journalists - the entire mainstream, support this status quo, whether they identify themselves as right wing or left wing – Republicans or Democrats. The common ground they espouse is that the US system, which is to be spread across the planet, may be flawed, but, it is the BEST SYSTEM IN THE WORLD!

The best the progressive world could espoused to. The end.

For, we know how in the US, the business community and its corporate news media, spends fortunes bankrolling a public relations machinery to convince the US citizenry of that this-is-the-best-of-all-possible-worlds’ propaganda and that another more progressive system is unthinkable; that we Americans can’t do better than this.

As Chomsky says, the US business community and their PR apparatus make an “unpalatable situation appear rational, benevolent, and necessary if not necessarily desirable.”

Of course that could be because, US intellectu
als along with the populace, were trained, in US schools, to see the status quo as the best of all possible worlds; trained by our corporate media to become consumers not form communities having nothing to do with buying; trained that getting the good life means these compromises MUST be made; trained that under this profit-making-is-the-only-thing-of-value-system, that it’s pretty unprofitable to challenge those who benefit from the status quo. For, according to the always tantalizing, ever mesmerizing rags-to-riches capitalistic storyline, illusion rather, that next millionaire could be you!

Obviously these self-serving ideas bring us back to the age of the divine kings’ spiel, except now it’s the rule of the godlike corporations and their wealthy owners.

Frankly, no organized civic group has ever realistically shown to the public the rags-to-riches story applies to only one in millions while the one, two, three percent privileged white men in this world, owning most of the worlds assets, ar
e the ones entitled to all protections, all bounties, in fact, as the Bush administration is proving, their frontier extends throughout the world and anyone who questions this US corporate gluttony is a terrorist, anti-democratic - a wretched subversive who needs squashing!

Under this system’s basic principles, the majority of Haitians, like all the world's peoples, must always be ruled indirectly by the Washington’s corporate elite and directly by their wealthy local Haitian agents of imperial power. A role, the Convergence wannabees badly want to slip on.

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When we manage to avoid the distractions...

Postby jafrikayiti* » Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:25 am

Wow !

It is amazing to see what can happen when we finally leave behind "Kafou tenten" where the subject of discussion is non-sense egomania.

In a way, what has happened on this forum is a perfect example of what needs to happen in Haiti and the world. I.e. That we make resolute decisions to avoid DISTRACTIONS and learn to spend our precious little time analyzing the important issues with a clear vision to act in a strategic, informed and systematic way to transform the realities we MUST change.

Ezili Dantò says we must come to understand:

That elsewhere, as in the US, the PR industry, the business community, the academic ideologues, the intellectual, the reporters, journalists - the entire mainstream, support this status quo, whether they identify themselves as right wing or left wing – Republicans or Democrats.


This is a very
important observation. For as we have seen in the past U.S. elections, the people have placed their future into the hands of so-called liberal democrats who have shown themselves again and again to be no different than the Republicans. Here in Canada, we are living the same tragedy whreby the Liberals usually gain the votes of blacks and other non-whites without much effort - yet, when you look at the policies applied by these so-called "liberals", they might as well have been run by Jesse Helms and David Duke directly.

For instance, it is under the current Canadian "Liberal" government that a number of right-wing white men met in Ottawa last January to decide to put Haiti under occupation - before January 1 2004. This caused a lost of noise (see article of l'actualité of March 15th 2003 titled "Haiti mise en tutelle par l'ONU) but I have not seen anything to convince me that the plan has been derailed by the noise made.

The anaylsis Ezili has put in front of us may help us better comprhend w
hy for instance, the U.S. embassy has given a Human Rights Prize to NCHR's Haiti Office, and since that time, we have noticed a radical shift in the positions taken by that so-called independent organization. Or why IRI, NDI, NED, USAID, Institut Francais, CIDA (the Canadian one) spend so much money on so-called NGOs, Civil Society, and political organizations in Haiti. Why USIS has always maintained a program for the training of Haitian journalists. Indded, these are the kinds of investments better known as "foreign aid" which never stop in our countries whether it is a Republican or Democrat that is in the White House. Whether it is Chirac or Mitterand who occupies the Champs Elizé or whether it is Mulroney (conservative) or Chretien (Liberal) who occupies the Canadian Parliament in Ottawa.

Yes :
as in the US, the PR industry, the business community, the academic ideologues, the intellectual, the reporters, journalists - the entire mainstream, support this status quo, whether they
identify themselves as right wing or left wing – Republicans or Democrats


Ezili, I thank you for your clear-cut, no non-sense analyses. I believe this is the level of discussion that women and men from our community need to engage into if we want to transform this outrageous reality our peoples are living all over the globe.

What I find even more powerful in your analyses is the fact that, as a conscious African (Haitian) woman, you not only have debunked the crap we are all being fed by the supremacist "mainstream" media, but you present paths to solutions in a way that compels the black man to see in his sister a key ally in the struggle rather than the threat that is too often seen in Black man, Black women discourses.

Sister, please keep on helping us focus on the real struggle and the real challenges that we are indeed condenmed to face and overcome TOGETHER!

Thank you ! and much respect to you sister!

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Postby Pitit Ginen » Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:28 pm

Monchè Jaf,

Nan mesaj 7 Jen w-an, W vini ak bonjan enfòmasyon pou nou. Sitou sou eta mouvman popilè-yo ak zafè koripsyon nan leta, sann pa bliye eta manfouben gouvènman-an. Nan mesaj mwen-an, mwen te fè silans sou pwen sa-yo, yon fason pou-m te rete sou wòl Aristide nan leta-a.

Gen yon bagay ki dwe klè pou nou tout. Aristide paka, pou kont-li, konbat koripsyon, opòtinis elt. Se prèske enposib, si antouraj-li pa onèt. Nou ka sonje an 1991, se pa Aristide ki t ap met lòd nan aparèy leta-a, se p at Aristide ki t ap met zenglendo anba kòd, se p at Aristide ki t ap met disiplin nan finans peyi-a. Poutan, menm lè yon seri de minis t ap fè yon travay revolisyonè, nou te wè nan antouraj nèg sa-yo de endividi k ap ankouraje koripsyon, ki t ap fè vye pwopagann politik pou Lavalas, yon fason pou te asire sivi sistèm k ap bay yo manje-a.

Demobilizasyon w ap pale la-a pa nouvo non Jaf. Depi KNG-a ak Avril te fin mete yon fen nan

zafè alfa-a, tout militan konsekan te konstate demobilizasyon sa-a. Lavalas pral pouse fenomèm sa-a nan ekstrèm-li kote Aristid li-menm rete gwo koupab nan sans sa-a. Men mwen fin pa padone msye pase li fin pa montre limit-li kòm yon ansyen prèt ki pa gen vizyon yon veritab lidè politik. Avèk Aristid nan pouvwa-a an 1991, pa yon sèl fwa te gen apèl pou fòme bonjan òganizasyon popilè konsekan ki gen pou vizyon enterè peyi-a olye ti enterè mesken. Vid sa-a vin fè ke lè bagay yo ap dejenere nan men msye, bri koudeta pran kouri, li tonbe nan demagoji ki pral presipite koudeta-a.

Mwen repete plizyè fwa nan fowòm sa-a : frè nou-yo opòtinis anpil. Se youn nan bagay k ap fè peyi-a fè fon. Kouman nou dwe reyaji pou transfòme enpwisans an POUVWA? Repons-lan chita nan mete bonjan òganizasyon kominotè oubyen popilè sou pye, kit nan dyaspora-a, kit anndan peyi-a, ak moun ki montre volonte ke yo vle tout bon vre patisipe nan konstriksyon peyi-a. Mwen pa panse gen lòt mwayen pou transfòmasyon sa-a rive fèt.
Oganizasyon konsekan! Oganizasyon konsekan! se pi bon chimen k ap
ede-n jwenn wout pou-n soti nan forè-a.

Obsèvasyon-m, experyans mwen nan òganizasyon popilè ann Ayiti pwouve-m ke koze militan konsekan-an se pi gwo dilèm nan peyi-a. Men li sifi ke nou jwenn yon ti gwoup ki deside e ki konsyan vre pou anpil bagay tranfòme. Batay pou transfòmasyon sa-a pa p fèt senpman nan mouvman popilè, fòk nou mennen-l anndan lekòl kote jèn nou-yo dwe gen yon lòt vizyon, yon lòt lekti, yon lòt analiz de reyalite peyi-yo. Dayè, mwen rete konvenki ke si pa gen okenn travay an pwofondè ki fèt nan lekòl, transfòmasyon sa-a gen dwa pa janm fèt. Pase, nou paka bliye ke vle pa vle jèn-yo gen pou vin asire lidèchip nan peyi-a. Men si nan kakòn tèt-yo anyen pa chanje, kisa nou ka atann kòm chanjman?

Jèn-yo bizwen direksyon, se yon obligasyon sou chimen transfòmasyon-an!


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US Foreign aid and globalization brings Eurocentric results.

Postby Ezili Danto* » Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:13 am

One et repe to all:

In his comments, posted Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:25 am. Post subject: “When we manage to avoid the distractions” JAF gives us a better understanding of why USAID and the US Embassy continually supports certain types of NGOs, non-profits and “AID” organizations in Haiti.

JAF, in effect, tells us that Kolon yo naturally support those organizations furthering their points of view, businesses and political interests in Haiti. As JAF says perhaps that’s the reason “….why IRI, NDI, NED, USAID, Institut Francais, CIDA (the Canadian one) spend so much money on so-called NGOs, Civil Society, and political organizations in Haiti. Why USIS has always maintained a program for the training of Haitian journalists. Indeed, these are the kinds of investments better known as "foreign aid" which never stop in our countries whether it is a Republican or Democrat that is in the W
hite House. Whether it is Chirac or Mitterand who occupies the Champs Elizé or whether it is Mulroney (conservative) or Chretien (Liberal) who occupies the Canadian Parliament in Ottawa. “

In fact, JAF brings up something I have a bit of experience with and would like to briefly underline.

I just add, by quoting part of JAF’s astute post that “these are the kinds of investments better known as "foreign aid" which never stop in our countries whether it is a Republican or Democrat that is in the White House.” I say USAID and the like, support these training-type reforms not only for the in-road it gives them with brainwashing and propaganda in Haiti, but for another, more concrete, reason.

USAID and their like, hire US “consultants” to do the training, which means the US “aid” money goes back to the US; which means, the money goes to USAID State Department cronies and US-governmental employees who are always the ones lapping up “aid” monies to Haiti, not the poor Haitian child in need.


For, the foreign aid money USAID and the US Embassy tell the US citizenry will go to make life better for Haiti’s poor, in fact goes directly into the pockets of the US corporate elite, their professional classes and the simple US clerk and administrator - who as I’ve written elsewhere, use it, to pay for private schools in the US or Western Europe for their children and to live like mini-monarchs in Haiti with a bunch of cheap domestics and restaveks.

Once they get a taste of the standard of life they get in Haiti as White people with dollars and paying no taxes or tariffs, once they get that taste, just like the old Dixiecrats in the US South, they can’t give that sort of exploitation up. They won’t.

Most, by education and/or social class in the US, simply could not afford such living standards in the US, or, in any of the other Western countries. So, Haiti as Africa is used for their upward mobility. These Whites are the ones feeding the Haitian journalists their by-lines for the “bri
lari” they incessantly print. They are the ones keeping the instability going and advising the Haitian Diaspora to keep away from “brutal and backwards” Haiti with constant manufactured conflicts. They are the ones creating these conflicts to keep the Haitian government, journalists, business people and workers and professionals occupied, while they, these mostly White US nationals and their local Haitian agents, steal our lands all over Haiti or go throughout the “developing” world getting said other poor countries to service THEIR NEEDS. All the while telling all and a sundry they are bringing “reform,” carrying forth their “white man burden” to the “Third Word.” Now, if you buy this trash, you weren’t listening when your Grandmama was telling you about the escapades of ti bouki and ti malice.

Also, if foreign “aid monies” are spent on training, it perpetuates itself. It perpetuates Haitian dependency on the US and it’s “experts.”. It perpetuates getting Eurocentric returns indefinitely in Haiti, w
ith no maturity date. For, it’s not about investing in skills-building for Haitians so Haiti becomes self-reliant and independent. No. These US/EURO “trainings” gets Haitian journalist, police, party organizers, etc. to adopt US beliefs and opinions. But the extra gravy for the Kolon system, the other salient point of USAID’s reforms is to return the majority of US aid monies back into US hands and leave Haiti with a constant need for more “training.” That way the mostly White employees at USAID and employees of USAID contractors and their affiliated NGOs will have endless opportunities to “keep training” Black Haitian journalists, judges, lawyers, policemen, etc., thereby having an endless need to keep making money from Haiti’s underdevelopment.

If, like me, you asked USAID and the other so-called “bailleur des fonds” to allow for a small portion of their foreign “aid” money to be used to buy supplies that, for instance, Haitian Court houses might need to become useful to the masses and classes in Hai
ti, like electric generators, file folders, pens, pencils, computers, water tanks, paper for warrants, ect. They will tell you Haiti is too politically “unstable” for them to invest in like this. (Why does Haiti stay unstable? Do you see the maze we are put in!) \

Point is, building basic infrastructure that, for example, would make useful their “training” is not their concern. So, they will “train” Haitian judges, or, policemen who have no habitable court house to go to work in because THAT irrationality, that lave men siye a te, serves their interests. Even before I sat there at the table with these drones, I knew only Haitians with progressive mindsets could help change Haiti. Today, I know it this more clearly and try to share that knowledge as best I can. (Paraphrased from Ezili’s other writings.)

I remember spending months in Haiti, going to meetings after meetings with these international “donors” from France, US and Canada, telling me how they had tons of money for judicial reform, but
when I said “there was no electricity in the Ministry, why don’t you advance us $5,000 of that godzillion you have to give away and I’ll go to Miami and get a generator presto pronto, so the Minister of Justice and the two hundred or so employees for the Ministry could start doing some justice work, (now this illogic had been going on for TWO YEARS before I got there, even before Guy Malary’s assassination.) But they looked at me like some outrageous subversive in need of a padded cell room and said I had a “conflict of interest.” Damn right I did! (Paraphrased from Ezili’s other writings.)

Yet and still, USAID and the US Embassy had $160million or so to actually give away to some large multinational consultancy company (Checchi) from the US for a six-year contract to “train” Haitian judges and for lots of, as JAF points out, “Civil Society” and “democratization projects.” That was in 1995-1996. We know now (Sixty Minutes did a piece on it) how that money was wasted on US so-called experts. No syste
mic, authentic judicial or community policing reforms was done. That’s not USAID’s job, or US Foreign Aid’s job. We know now how one such White USAID contract lawyer “reforming things in Haiti” was actually a disbarred lawyer from California or Washington State. These are the sorts of US-“experts” making a killing lapping up Black pain in Haiti and elsewhere in the “developing world.” Their skin gives them the benefit of doubt, while Haitian professionals, no matter how light or what upper class ranking in Haiti, will not be so lucky in their own country. For, while these Whites working for USAID, US Embassy or even the UN, are making top dollar they couldn’t possibly earn in the US or their own countries, Haitian lawyers in Haiti actually TEACHING and SHOWING them Haitian law, codes and customs (to make them experts so they could go write those books and Foreign Journal articles and add to their international resume) were and are still getting less than we pay workers at McDonalds in the US. See why, the mon
ies of the “Internationals” will not ever help develop Haiti’s democracy, consensus-building, Haiti’s Civil Society, pro-democracy movement, nor, improve the Haitian people’s living standards or with any, for that matter, Haitianist cultural, political and economic growth in Haiti. US, USAID, IMF, WT, World Bank, are all about servicing themselves, their corporate morally repugnant elites. Frankly, any Haitian official who doesn’t understand know this by now is incompetent. Any elected or appointed Haitian official whose sole strategy is based on THE HOPE for the trickle down that might remain, after the Eurocentric services his and her own peoples, any official who plan for Haitian development rests on this hope is incompetent.
(Paraphrased from Ezili’s other writings.)

Speaking from experience, no one needs more than one week in Haiti “within that system” to know it’s totally worthless to Haitianist and an absolute obstacle to Haiti’s development.

I remember thinking while in one of these
USAID Mission Director’s house, that if I stood still long enough, him and his colleagues might mistake me for some of that “native” artwork and craft they had all about their houses and had “collected” all over Africa. If I stood still, they might just think I was made of wood also. Forget I was a breathing human being. For they certainly could not think Haitians were equals or even human, if you analyze their policies at work in Haiti, lived through it and see how they use us as fuel.” (Paraphrased from Ezili’s other writings.)

The popularly elected government IS important because it’s a first step. But it also draws too much heat from the imperialists to have much room to breath a lot of systemic change into Haiti. So, our attention must be two-fold. Keep mobilizing to provide the Haitian people’s mandate the support necessary so we don’t go back to military dictatorships and keep mobilizing to develop some national HAITIANIST strategy, a fifty year or so strategy, to plan and develop Haiti notwi
thstanding the furnace of Haitian fratricide and US manifest destiny that wants Haiti as simply a “service center” for US/Euro needs. Frankly, only the generations of Haitians independent of those two mindsets and systems can actually help Haiti. For, within these historic and current crucibles we can and WILL make changes while accounting to both. That job is for the Fruits of 1957 as I elsewhere written.

For, Haitian fratricide - that is, us-Haitians being at each others throats- and the imperialistic system and Haitian political culture that animates this, simply assist with getting Eurocentric returns indefinitely in Haiti.

Once in Haiti, I even ventured to a USAID reps, “Why don’t you videotape your training sessions, that way Haitians can use the tapes next time. For instance, we could use the videos and training materials to build a self-serving Haiti library at a computer center for future use?” No, sireeeee. Haiti, is not even worthy of them leaving us training tapes of their oh so i
mportant, latest American training methods. Now, we know Haitian-Americans also pay the US taxes used for Foreign Aid. We know we have an interest in how our money is spent in Haiti too. But, fact is, foreign aid money must be used for employment of US “experts.” That’s it. Haiti’s misery provides these diplomats, experts, US consultants, etc. with jobs and opportunities to get to Haiti and get some leisure time to figure out how to start their families import and export or tourism businesses so they can live the good life in perpetuity. Don’t even ask what makes these drones’ qualified “experts” in the Haiti situation. For you already know, they mostly must be US-governmental, White and just do their colonizing chores. Period. (Paraphrased from Ezili’s other writings.)

Since I’ve come back from Haiti, I’ve made it my business, as most of you know, to use Haitian culture and art as my platform for exposing USAID, US Embassy and the imperial eye there in Haiti keeping Haiti in chaos and impasse. For, as
I’ve written elsewhere, the spirit part of me asked, “Why else would the Ancestors have given you - you with your particular abilities, points of references and sensibilities - such a seat, if not to bear witness? So, it is for me to do what I do. But Readers, I join JAF and Pitit Ginen in asking for zami-m yo to come share with us. What is YOUR contribution to lifting up Haitian culture, Haitian societal standings, Haitian economy, Haitian impact on the world, to exposing and lessening Euro/US barbarity in Haiti, that’s what I ask my fellow Haitians and friends. This forum is the place to discuss these things. I would encourage more Haitian people to participate instead of simply viewing our discourse here. Haiti needs positive Haitianist input.

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JAF touches on something else worrying me these days. He says “For instance, it is under the current Canadian "Liberal" government that a number of right-wing white men met in Ottawa last January to decide to put Haiti under occupation - before Janu
ary 1 2004. This caused a lot of noise (see article of l'actualité of March 15th 2003 titled "Haiti mise en tutelle par l'ONU) but I have not seen anything to convince me that the plan has been derailed by the noise made.”

True enough JAF. I’ve not seen anything either to convince me that this plan has been derailed. In fact, with the Ascroft pronouncement that Haiti is a “terrorist” breeding ground and the latest US government attacks on the Haitian people with their pronouncement, after 200 years of not caring one bit how Haitians treat their children, now they are so, so, so concerned about my babies, that Haiti has just been put on the list of countries (to be denied foreign aid”) “Trafficking in Persons.” Why now?

While Haitian journalist waste time focusing on “bri lari ya,” or, as Pitit Ginen also says “yon grenn Kreyen vivan” who, as I’ve said is pretty hamstrung; while we fixate on Aristide, US and USAID strategy to oppress Black Haiti goes forward and 2004 is beckoning for them to
try and psychologically annihilate us with a direct or de facto occupation at the very moment we are celebrating our ancestral achievement. What are we-Haitians doing to put obstacles in their way before this happens? Now, that would be a long term Haitianist investment certainly designed to pay an annual Haitianist return indefinitely, having no maturity date. That’s the type of development I want my children to know I stood and fought for. It’s not their type of globalization.

Li led li la.

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Postby jafrikayiti* » Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:21 am

Ezili,

I do hope this debate will proceed to reach heights never reached before on this forum... The potential and the need are certainly there.

Unfortunately, for the next several days I will be travelling and not necessarily have access to the internet. So, I will not be able to participate often if at all.

But, I rush to say that I appreciate the fact that you share your experience lived in Haiti with us in such a powerful way.

Nou gen anpil koze pou nou pale.

respè,

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Postby Pitit Ginen » Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:43 pm

Sè-m Ezili,

Li enpòtan nan kalfou nou rive jodi-a pou nou kole lide nou-yo, nou menm ki kanpe nan kan pèp-la tout bon vre; nan kan pwogrè-a, nan chache pi bon mwayen pou-n retire peyi nou nan sa li ye-a. Pou nou fè sa, li enpòtan pou nou detèmine klèman ki fòs nou, ki feblès. Kilès ki enmi (sila-yo, se yo-k pi enpòtan pou nou) ak kilès ki opòtinis.

Pandan n' ap brase lide pou-n wè pi klè nan jwèt bosal sa-a, mwen pral fè kèk kòmantè sou mesaj w-a ki te parèt nan dat 8 Jen-an.


Ezili wrote:I think by starting to do a better job at looking outwards together. That's my opinion.

Si-m byen konprann lide wa-a, w mande pou nou ta mete ansanm pou-n bare lawout a magouyè, lenmi etranje k ap divize pou renye, k ap fè konplo pou genbe-n nan tenten. Se yon bagay ki posib... Men, li poko ka reyalize koulye-a, pase nou gen twòp konpatriyòt sanvègòy nan mita
n nou. Nou ta gendwa gen ti divizyon, san sa pa anpeche-n wè nan yon menm direksyon_kondisyon prensipal ki pou ta pèmèt nou fè travay bare vòlè sa-a ansanm_men sosyete nou tèlman gangrene anba chirepit ki vin fè travay sa-a prèske enposib. Eske gen mwayen pou tout sektè nan peyi-a met tèt-yo ansanm? Pèmèt mwen di ke se pa sa ki pi enpòtan. S ak esansyèl-lan : se pou TOUT SEKTÉ sa-yo Wè enterè peyi-a anvan tout bagay. Kesyon de enterè yon gwoup, sa yo rele klas sosyal-la, ekziste toupatou. Men sa pa anpeche gen ekilib nan sosyete kote se enterè peyi-a ki konte dabò. Yon gwo peyi tankou Brezil chaje ak enterè de klas, men sa pa anpeche gen ekilib nan sosyete-a, malgre "Favelas-yo", pase omwen gen yon bann sektè ekonomik ki prodiktif anpil ki vin kreye yon espas vital pou plizyè milyon moun. Nan yon lòt gwo peyi ki se Nijerya, w pa gen yon sektè ekonomik ki pwodiktik tankou nan Brezil. Feblès sa-a vin kreye plis tansyon nan Nijerya. An gwo, mwen oblije di ke se pou nou rezoud gwo vye divizyon enbesi
l anndan lakay nou dabò anvan pou nou kontre ansyen kolon-yo.


Ezili wrote:But, as I indicate below, after evaluating the issue, unless we understand the all encompassing, far reaching significance of globalization, I think that although access to such information would open doors and one knows not where that opening might lead, even if the Haitian journalists and press could provide the population with all the information needed for making informed decisions and with access to budgets, projects and other such public information for debate, even if they were able to do so, in the final analyses, it would not help us with pushing forward democracy in Haiti. Because the status quo powers do not want the population to be politicized. Period. They would screw up the information in some way to misinform the public, keep them de-politicized, at each other's throats and at impasse.

Mwen dakò ke li enpòtan anpil pou konpatriyòt nou-yo konprann s
a "Globalizasyon" an ye. Banm rezime an de mo kisa-m panse_ nan yon lespri Tyè Mondis_ sistèm sa-ye apre tout sa-m li sou sijè sa-a : gwo antrepriz entènasyonal-yo, sitou gwo antrepriz peyi oksidantal-yo mete ansanm ak yon seri de gwo òganizasyon finasye entènasyonal tankou Bank Mondyal (BM) ak Fon Monetè Entènasyonal (FME) ap fè presyon sou peyi nan Tyè Monn-nan. Sektè sa-yo ap fè presyon pou peyi Tyè Monn-yo kite gwo konpanyi oksidantal-yo antre fè sa yo vle lakay-yo : pou yo achte pou sen kòb konpanyi yo vle, pou yo mete nenpòt ki endistri san leta pa mande yo kont sou zafè salè, sekirite anplwaye ak lanvironman elt. W va remake se yon eksplikasyon byen kout ki pa pale de wòl BM ak FME nan prete Tyè Monn-lan lajan ak gwo enterè ki jwe ak sa pou yo fòse peyi sa-yo vann tèt-yo bay gwo entrepriz blan-yo. Men kijan mwen rezime koze "Mondyalizasyon" an. Pase, malgre tout sa w tande nan lòt peyi blan se pa konsa bagay yo jwe. Kesyon : èske Tyè Monn-nan oubyen pèp nan Tyè Monn-nan ka anpeche bagay sa-a ki k
oumanse deja rapousib? Nou ka toujou brase lide sou kesyon sa-a!

Eske wòl ke jounalis nou-yo dwe jwe nan eksplike kisa k ap pase nan ministè nou-yo enpòtan? Mwen kontinye di Wi! Se enpòtan. Kouman? Tip jounalis sa-a m' ap pale-a, se pa senpman nan domèn gouvènman li dwe fouye zo nan kalalou, se nan tout gwo dosye ki konsène avni ak byennèt tout peyi-a. Yon tip de jounalis konsa ka fè ankèt sou maladi ki genyen nan peyi-a, vini ak bèl rale sou eta agrikilti ak la mizè nan tout peyi-a pwovens pa pwovens ak anpil lòt dosye konsa. Gen anpil anpil kesyon yon jounalis konsa ta gen pou-l eklere pou moun ki enterese nan yon enfòmasyon syantifik, sa vle di ki chita sou envestigasyon, rezilta ak analiz. Mwen panse yon apròch konsa ta ka ede jèn nou-yo pi konprann reyalite peyi-a e menm konsyantize kèk ladan-yo sou responsabilite-yo nan patisipe pou yo ede peyi-yo, konpatriyòt-yo. Pi gwo konsekans yon demach konsa se ta montre jèn nou-yo enpòtans agiman ak analiz nan yon diskisyon olye voye monte, akizas
yon ridikil ki pa chita sou anyen konkrè nou tande souvan k ap fèt tribò babò.
W panse ke kolon-yo (statu quo powers, si-m byen tradwi tèm sa-a) ka anpeche-n fè yon bagay konsa? Mwen pa kwè sa!


Ezili wrote:The classical neoliberalist say that:
"Profit-making is the essence of democracy, any government that pursues anti-market policies is being antidemocratic, no matter how much informed popular support they might enjoy." (See, the introduction by Robert W. McChesney to Noam Chomsky's book Profit Over People, at pg. 9).

Ka Aristid ak Chavèz nan Venezyela eksplike koze sa-a aklè kote pakèt atoufè-k te vòlè pouvwa nan peyi ki "pi demokratik-la" ap eseye fè tout sa k posib, ak konplisite chen anndan kay, pou nèg sa-yo pa reyalize anyen pou peyi-yo.

Ezili wrote:I cannot thoroughly address all I think this means to the Haitian situation, but I can say, unequivocally, that it means no matter whether t
he Haitian government is democratically elected by the majority or put in by force, the powers-that-be will do the same thing - exploit the majority of our people and keep us underdeveloped.

For, as long as we contained-in-poverty, and/or also contained, because of poverty, solely within the Island, having no means for venturing back and forth, then, only the degree of oppression will change. It's only a matter of degrees for the masses and classes in Haiti the level of the oppression. But the oppression is there whether or not all Haitians say No More Coup d' Etats and the opposition and Aristide reached a consensus. For, the white man isn't going to suddenly go away and say, "oh, oh you beautifully, united, Haitian people, now that you've found a consensus, we white privileged men will stop trying to divide and conquer you the better to take you to the cleaners." Yeah right".

Mwen pa konnsi w rann kont de sa, oubyen mwen ka mal eseye entèprete entansyon-w nan f
raz sa-yo. Men mwen gen lenpresyon ke jan w pale-a, se konmsi destine nou nan men kolon-yo; se konmsi si se pa yo ki bannou yon chans n' ap pase tout ekzistans nou nan malpwòpte ["no matter whether the Haitian government is democratically elected by the majority or put in by force, the powers-that-be will do the same thing - exploit the majority of our people and keep us underdeveloped".] E w di pi lwen aklè ke vòlè sa-yo pap janm deside kite okenn espas pou nou respire ["For, the white man isn't going to suddenly go away and say, "oh, oh you beautifully, united, Haitian people, now that you've found a consensus, we white privileged men will stop trying to divide and conquer you the better to take you to the cleaners." Yeah right".] Mwen ta renmen w pran konsyans de pwopo sa-yo sè-m Ezili. E petèt reflechi ankò. Nan powòl sa-yo gen anpil Kè kase e menm defèt devan pouvwa sistèm-nan ki parèt tèlman enpresyonan ou pito pouvwa ke medya nèg sa-yo fè parèt tankou lafen dimonnde. Ki pi grav, w di aklè ke
"Linyon pa fè lafòs" devan nèg sa-yo nan koze sa-a : [But the oppression is there whether or not all Haitians say No More Coup d' Etats and the opposition and Aristide reached a consensus.] Mwen dakò ke opresyon-an ap toujou la. Men ak yon Inite konsa [all Haitians say No More Coup d' Etats and the opposition and Aristide reached a consensus.] se si n' ap kapab fè presyon nou menm sou malfektè-yo, bare-yo lawout pou yo pa foure dan-yo nan zafè nou. Ak yon inite konsa tou, n' ap kapab travay ansanm nan bati peyi nou_ yon bagay ke pèsonn paka anpeche-n fè si-n ini.

Nan koze presyon sa-a, pèsonn pa alabri nan Tyè Monn-nan. Sanginè, figi di sa-yo eseye anmègde-n nan tout jan : nan sipòte koudeta lakay nou; anpeche nou jwenn medikaman pou geri malad lakay nou. Men gade kouman presyon beton-an te fè Aristide ak Chavèz tounen nan pouvwa-yo, malgre malpouwont nan peyi sa-yo te gen sipò pi gwo atoufè-a (Etazini)! Gade kouman gwo presyon pèp Afrik Dissid-la fè pi gwo konpanyi medikaman nan monn-nan ki
rele Pfitzer kouri batba nan chire pit sou kesyon medikan jenerik yo pat vle Afrik Disid pwodwi-a! Gade kouman pèp souvren mete silans sou-yo!!! Gade sa!!! W pa wè ekzanp sa-yo sifi pou bannou_ nou menm militan ki jire jiskaske nou disparèt pou-n kanpe pèp-la_ jarèt pou-n pa pè fè presyon, denonse epi fòse-yo negosye what is called by all names "Statu quo powers", "the powers-that-be". An verite Ezili atoufè sa-yo pa fè-m pè! Yo gen gwo mwayen pou yo peye fè elimine yon militan konsekan, men yo pa dwe kraponnen nou. Si se pou sa, nou pata p menm sot nan chenn(...)

Gen yon leson ki enpòtan pou nou pa bliye : "politik se yon kesyon de rapò de fòs". Men se kisa nou rele "Fòs" nan jwèt politik-la? Pou mwen menm, se pa yon tèm nou ka defini nan yon fason senp. Mwen panse ke mo sa-a konplike anpil. Men lè n' ap pale de fòs nan yon kontèks politik, fòk zafè fòs militè-a vin an dènye nan lespri-n. Kesyon FòS sa-a, mwen plis wè-l nan BONJAN OGANIZASYON. Sa-m vle di ekzakteman, sèke se paske Tyè Monn
-nan rete divize, fann an myèt moso kifè kolon-yo kontinye ranpòte lamayòl nan jwèt-la. OPEP rete sèl òganizasyon serye ke Tyè Monn-nan mete sou pye nan echanj-li ak Loksidan. E nou wè aklè kouman Loksidan negosye ak respè ak òganizasyon sa-a. Men, grasamisèrikòd! se pa petwòl senpman ke yo bizwen lakay nou. Pifò matyè premyè chita nan Tyè Monn-nan. Pouki pa gen yon òganizasyon konsa ki pou pwoteje enterè sa-yo??? Nou tèlman enbesil, nou trouve-n kite se yo-menm ankò ki fòme pwòp òganizasyon pa-yo k ap deside pri tout sa n' ap vann-yo. Soti nan kacawo rive nan kafe ke Tyè Monn-nan premye pwodiktè. Pou konbyen tan ankò, yon sityasyon ridikil konsa ap kontinye!!! E pa met nan tèt-w yon sekond Ezili ke mwen ak w nou paka gen mo nou nan kaye listwa sa-a. Depi nou gen konfyans nan refleksyon ke n' ap fè, nou pa dwe yon moman kite teren idyolojik-la bay pèsonn.

Nou pa p pran alalejè enfliyans ke miltinasyonal-yo ki gen mwayen lajan ak sipò militè jan nou wè sa ap fèt anba je nou-la ann Irak kote y
o antre al vòlè petwòl tout moun jis founi je-yo ap gade. Men, lè n' ap pale de sektè ekonomik sanginè sa-a, fòk nou fè atansyon pou-l pa parèt tankou Papa Letènèl ki ta vini an chè e an nòs. Yo pa sa e p ap janm sa!!! Yo pa imòtèl, yo pa etènèl!!! Nou wè plizyè ki disparèt san yo pa kite tras! "Se Pèp-la sèl ki verite-a. Tout res-la se kout penti" : "Seul le peuple est authentique, tout le reste est maquillage (Pitit Ginen). Lè n' ap denonse politik miltinasyonal-yo atravè sa ki rele "globalizasyon" oubyen "mondyalizasyon" an, nan eksplike pou konpatriyòt nou-yo kisa ki kache dèyè bagay sa-a, kijan gwo biznis sa-yo ap fè magouy ak konplisite dirijan lakay nou-yo sou tèt nou, se yon fason pou-n fè presyon sou-yo, pou-n fòse yo jwe korèk nan jwèt-la san yo pa fè vis, ni bosal kote je pèp Tyè Monn-nan kale sou-yo. Se sa menm sa k te pase nan Afrik Disid-la prouve-n. Menmjan konpanyi petwòl ki rele Talisman-nan blije fèmen pòt-li nan peyi Soudan anba kout grif kritik toupatou. Youn nan feblès sistèm-
nan, sèke yo paka pèmèt-yo bouche zòrèy devan kritik nou-yo. Malgre Etazini, an gwo ponyèt, mache pran Irak, li kanmèm oblije ap chache lave tèt-li nan eksplike awogans li-a. Li menm blije nan bay manti pou-l wè si-l ta sove lafas. Sèke prèske toupatou nan lemonn se tankou chen yo trete pèp ameriken-an, soti nan prezidan pase pran sitwayen. Li ak atansyon medya nan peyi sa-a e menm lòt medya oksidantal ka p travay pou-yo, w ap wè aklè ke fokon-yo pa fèmen zòrèy devan vag kòlè (anti-americanism) ka p desann sou-yo. Kidonk, yon nonm gendwa ap fè frekan, men pèsonn pa tou pwisan. Pa gen bagay sa-a pyès!!!


Ezili wrote:We know here in the Diaspora, that it’s difficult, well nigh impossible, even for the majority white population in the US, to step up to corporate dominance of everything. Imagine how much more difficult for Haitians in Haiti to do so with no resources, especially since the system was created to first oppress us - the first captives (slaves) to set foot, in
chains and manacles, in their New World.

Lide sa-a vin rejwenn menm sa-m fenk eksplike piwo-a. Lide ki vle fè kwè ke miltinasyonal-yo enkontrolab, entouchab. An verite se yon mit bagay sa-a! Anpil peyi afriken ki te fenk pran Endepandans-yo, malgre feblès-yo nan zafè jestyon, te kanmenm rive nasyonalize yon pakèt endistri lakay-yo ki te nan menm miltinasyonal-yo. Ekzanp sa-yo montre aklè ke miltinasyonal-yo pa la fen dimonn. Peyi Tyè Monn-yo ka gen kontrol sou sektè sa-a si yo ranmase karaktè-yo. Epi tou ann nou byen vit di ke si Ayiti gen pou-l fè yon pa se pa okenn miltinasyonal k ap vin ede-l fè sa. Miltinasyonal-yo ki dirije, an majorite, pa blan se peyi blan parèy-yo yo ede pwogrese (gade kouman yo pouse Irland sou mache entènasyonal-la nan detan twa mouvman kote yo fè gwo envestisman nan peyi sa-a nan zafè elektronik, enfòmatik elt.) Yo pa janm fè sa pou okenn peyi nwa. Ke nou pa fè-n ilizyon nan sans sa-a!!! Sa vle di, si yo vle vin fè biznis lakay nou, fòk
nou atann nou a de negosyasyon sere ki pa p fasil nan defann enterè pèp lakay nou. Si-n manke louvri kò-n bay-yo, fè basès devan-yo, y' ap kontinye trete-n tankou chen. Dayè, sèl mwayen pou peyi Tyè Monn-yo soti nan tenten se dyaspora ak klas ki genyen-an ki pou premye gwo envestisè nan peyi sa-yo. Pa gen lòt pòt k ap mennen-n nan bout tinèl-la! Miltinasyonal vòlè, fachis pa p janm pòt-la!!! Sonje, pou-n fini, ke yo paka anpeche-n fè chanjman nan peyi nou si tout klas politik-la ansanm vle fè sa(...)

"Aucune force au monde ne peut vaincre un peuple qui lutte pour sa libertè"
(Lénine). "Pa gen okenn fòs sou latè ki ka met ajenou yon pèp ka p goumen pou libètè-l"

Se nan chanje lide n' ap anseye youn lòt epi vanse sou chimen k ap ede-n wè pi klè nan kesyon chanjman pou Ayiti peyi pa-m, peyi pa-w la.


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Postby Ezili Danto* » Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:38 am

One e Respe to all;

Pitit Ginen, vye kouzen mwen an,

Gen yon ti dans peyizan yo rele Djouba. Mwen konn danse l defwa pandan tanbourine mwen ap chante yon ti chanson ki di: “Travay, m ap travay ohh. Kouzen Zaka m ap travay avek ou tande….Zaka mete m travay. Zaka mete m travay. Pat konnen si m ta ka fe tout travay sa yoooo, Zaka mete m travay, la lan abitasyon ohh…..”

E byen, Kouzen Ginen mwen, m ap travay lan abitasyon an toujou… Men, bay se w yon ti tan pou li byen reflechi kouman sa ou di lan post dat 17 Jen ou a fel we pli kle. N ap we pi devan…… «Zaka mete m travay…..»

Annatandan, gen de, twa, bagay mwen ka di byen vit parapo ti mo ou ekri yo:

1. Seke, nou dako anpil. Figi di sa yo, yo pa kapab kraponnen mwen e pep mwen an fasil. Mwen konnen sa, pa enkyete w. Sa, se fos nou;

2. Nou dako: sosyete nou an, nou poko kole lide nou yo lan yon pwen ki ta pemet nou, kom ou di «fe travay bare vole sa yo ansa
nm.» Men, mwen di anplis, se rezon sa menm, se sa ki fe destine nou nan men kolon yo. Se nou ki pa bay tet nou chans avek pouvwa nou bay paket «konpatriyot sanvegoy nan mitan» nou yo.

3. Sa, se yon de pwen mwen t ap eseye di lan post ou reponn la. Mwen pa di linyon pa fe lafos. Fraz mwen ekri yo pa di sa, se pa entansyon m. Mwen we se paske nou pa konnen longe et lage chaj lenmi enperyalis la mete sou tet nou, kouman li ap divize pou l kraze nou. Mwen we sosyete nou-an pa konprann sa lan trip ak fyel li byen avek figi li pran anba mondyalizasyon. Si yo te byen konprann, yo t ap we menm avek fos linyon nou ap gen gwo pwoblem avek Blan yo ki vle entere nou anba mize pou etenite.

Si pouvwa politik lejitim e pa lejitim ditou a, si "TOUT SEKTE" te konprann, yo t ap we kiles ki vre lenmi pep Ayisien-an. Sa konte dabo. Andire, sekte opozisyon an pa konprann sa. Sosyete Ayisyen nou an, an jeneral, pa jwenn bon enfomasyon sou vre pwoblem nou ki kapab mobilize yo anko. Andire, yo pa we entere peyi a se
konprann kiles ki lenmi a - kouman lenmi sa jwe avek yo - konprann sa anvan tout bagay e reyalize yon tet ansanm sou entere nasyonal sa nou genyen, kom yon nasyon, kom Ayisien, KONT lenmi tout sekte popilasyon Ayisien an. An Ayiti, pouvwa politik lejitim e pa lejitim la li genyen yon sel GWO lenmi vre. Yo pa konprann sa, yo pa konprann devwa yo kom sitwayen Ayisien. E sa, se pli gwo febles sosyete nou an genyen ki fe l pa konprann poukisa dirijan Ayisien yo pa kapab fe yon bagay tout bon pou lavi che, grangou e mize. Sosyete nou an panse bagay sa yo lan men dirijan Ayisien lejitim yo, oubyen, ilejitim yo. Men, se pa vre. Petet se la nou pa dako. Paske, si m byen konprann, andire ou we «konpatriyot sanvegoy nan mitan nou yo » ki mete sosyete Ayisien nou an «telman gangrene anba chirepit» andire ou we moun sa yo e seten klas politik Ayisien kom yo tou puisan. Men, ou pa we kolon yo tou puisan? Si m byen konprann, andire ou we Ayisien malonet yo petet plis «enkontrolab», «entouchab» ; kom li preske enposib pou f
e presyon sou yo koulye a ki ap reyisi?

Eske, malpwopte Ayisien sa yo pi red ke malpwopte miltinasyonal yo e dirijan bann mou sa yo fe nou? Mwen di non. Mwen we ou bay ekzanp kijan lot peyi bat yo. Men, mwen pa we ekzanp kouman sekte Ayisien sa yo ou we ki ap bare wout inite nou, kouman lot pep, lan lot peyi, avek sekte kowonpi sa yo, klas sosyal sa yo, travay pou jwenn inite ou konpromi itil anba sistem global la. Men, etranje avek mondyalizasyon li a, ki ap fe konplo pou kenbe nou nan tenten, li menm li kontrolab, touchab, paske ou di «se si n ap kapap fe presyon nou menm sou malfekte yo, bare yo lawout pou yo pa foure dan yo nan zafe nou.» Ou di «yo pa imotel, yo pa etenel!!!» Men, mwen t ap mande w, E Ayisien malpouwont yo, eske yo etenel, tou puisan? Ou pa di sa, men, an gwo, sa ou di lan post ou a, li fe m reflechi konsa. Mwen ta renmen brase lide sa avek ou pi devan.

4. Finalman, ou ekri, «Sonje, pou n fini, ke yo paka anpeche n fe chanjman nan peyi nou si tout klas politik la ansanm vl
e fe sa…» Mwen dako. Men, ou te fe m kwe ke se pa posib pou tout klas politik yo ansanm vle fe sa, non? Ou te di «Eske gen mwayen pou tout sekte nan peyi a met tet yo ansanm? Pemet mwen di ke se pa sa ki pi enpotan. S ak esansyel lan: se pou TOUT SEKTE sa yo we entere peyi a anvan tout bagay.» Mwen we kontradiksyon, mwen pa byen konprann. Kisa ki entere peyi a si se pa we kiles ki vre lenmi nou?

Anfen kouzen, pemet mwen di ke mwen ta renmen w pran menm pasyon ki fe w ekri : «Pa gen okenn fos sou late ki ka met ajenou yon pep ka p goumen pou libete l » e di sitou «Pa gen okenn fos, ou sekte Ayisien sou late ki ka mete ajenou pep Ayisien an le li deside mete tet ansanm e sa a se ou bagay posib nou ka reyalize koulye a.» Paske si nou menm, lan kan pwogre a, nou pa ka di sa kleman avek konfyans (sou tout teren e sitou sou teren idyolojik la), si nou pa kabab we sa koulye a ansanm, ebyen kouzen, tout lot pawol nou di se radot.

Tande m byen.

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Postby Pitit Ginen » Sat Jun 21, 2003 7:15 am

Sè-m Ezili,

W vin rann brase lide nou-yo enteresan anpil, pase mwen trouve-m fas yon militan konsekan ki gen yon bèl eksperyans sou yon teren ki toujou fè m' ap reflechi. Mwen gen kèk kesyon mwen pral pwofite mande-w apre ke-m fin fè yon ti kòmantè sou kozman ONG sa-a.

Nan jan w pale, li rete klè ke w bay plis enpòtans nan obsève jan òganizasyon sa-yo ap fonksyone epi chache enfliyanse-yo olye w kontante-w ak sityasyon pèsonèl-w. Mwen pa kwè w inyore reyalite sa-a : anpil nan ti nèg ka p travay nan sikwi sa-yo, lefèt ke yo chita bò kote blan, sa-w tande-a si yo dwe fout dife nan tout Ayiti pou yo kontinye chita nan plas sa-a pou yo gen kòb nan pòch-yo, okenn fòs pa p ka anpeche-yo. Sa vle di koze ONG sa-yo mennen yon alyenasyon enkwayab kay anpil ti nèg. Nan jan w analize ONG sa-yo montre ke w se yon gwo eksepsyon anndan machin sa-a. Jan-w montre sa-a, kolon-yo jwe ak ONG-yo pou yo fabrike yon dal fo Ayisyen ki vin fè ekran nan defann enterè lenmi peyi-a.

Detay w-yo klè kon dlo kòk, men mwen gen kèk kesyon:
Se nan ki fason ONG sa-yo rive tabli-yo nan peyi-a? Eske gen kontra ki siyen ant ONG-yo ak otorite peyi-a? Si se sa, alòs se kilès ki defini aktivite ONG sa-yo nan peyi-a? Se ONG sa-yo ki defini pwòp pwogram-yo oubyen gen yon ministè nan gouvènman ayisyen-an ki gen yon dwa de kontwòl ak sipèvizyon sou kisa ONG sa-yo ap fè ak kòb ki antre nan men-yo nan kad swadizan devlopman nan peyi-a? Oubyen ankò èske aktivite oubyen pwopgram ke ONG sa-yo ap fè nan peyi-a se ansanm ak gouvènman-an yo etidye-yo? Eske li vre jan-m fè remak-la pou nou ta di ke pifò Ayisyen ki anndan ONG sa-yo se opòtinis? Si ONG sa-yo pa p travay nan enterè peyi-a, alòs pou ki depi dikdantan yo la sou teren-an? Kouman w eksplike bagay dwòl sa-a? Pouki dirijan nou-yo pa tou senpman entèdi maskarad sa-yo antre nan peyi-a?

Se kesyon sa-yo ki pase nan tèt mwen pou koulye-a. Mwen kapab vin ak lòt pita si lòt pase nan lespri-m. E se ak kesyon sa-yo m'ap kite-w.

Lit-la dwe fèt nan tout sans. E se sa menm w ap fè la-a nan eksplike pou nou jan yon seri de magouyè fonksyone.


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Postby Pitit Ginen » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:25 am

Sè-m Ezili,

Gen yon pwen nan mesaj 19 Jen w-an ki merite bonjan brase lide. "Eske, malpwopte Ayisien sa yo pi red ke malpwopte miltinasyonal yo e dirijan bann mou sa yo fe nou? Mwen di non. Mwen we ou bay ekzanp kijan lot peyi bat yo. Men, mwen pa we ekzanp kouman sekte Ayisien sa yo ou we ki ap bare wout inite nou, kouman lot pep, lan lot peyi, avek sekte kowonpi sa yo, klas sosyal sa yo, travay pou jwenn inite ou konpromi itil anba sistem global la...".

San-m pa fè anpil pale, kite-m di, sè-m Ezili, ke nan jwèt politik-la lenmi anndan pi enpòtan lontan pase lenmi deyò. Mwen te di bagay sa-a deja, e-m blije repete-l yon lòt fwa : "se paske pifò nan klas politik oubyen entèlektyèl nan Tyè Monn-nan pre pou yo vann tèt-yo ak blan pou de goud kifè kolon sa-yo ka kontinye ap fè sa yo vle anndan peyi nou". Kote ou gen yon klas politik ak entèlektyèl nasyonalis, blan-an vini li negosye, li pa vin enpoze anyen menmjan y' ap fè-l nan pwòp peyi nou-an. Wi! entèlektyèl ak klas politik malpwòp lakay nou-yo pi rèd senkant mil fwa pase lenmi etranjè-a. Sèke li pi fasil lontan pou nou demaske, bat chal bari dèyè yon kolon. Men, lè se yon Ayisyen ka p jwe senkyèm kolòn e ki deklare l' ap goumen pou si, pou sa, li nan lopozisyon ak kòb ak zam nan men-l, jwèt politik-la vin di mil fwa pi kòryas.

Nan prèske tout zòn Azyatik-la ak nan anpil peyi nan monn arab-la, gen yon faktè kiltirè, e menm relijye mwen ta di, ki fè pèp sa-yo devlope yon mantalite ki konplètman diferan de anpil lòt peyi ki te kolonize nan Tyè Monn-nan nan relasyon-yo ak Loksidan. Youn nan bagay nou ka remake, sèke sa yo rele valè oksidantal-yo (ki pa sa ditou pou tout moun ki li cheminman listwa yè ki ponn listwa jodi-a) tankou relijyon kretyèn-lan, philozofi elt. pa janm rive enpoze-yo nan sosyete azyatik ak arab-yo. Sa vin fè, kolon-yo pa janm ka rive enpoze filozofi rasis yo-a nan tèt pèp sa-yo e nantize-yo pou yo ka itilize-yo jan yo vle menmjan yo rive fè sa nan anpil lòt rejyon nan Tyè Monn-lan. Pase, si w byen swiv, se nannantizasyon sa-a blan yo te rive fè nan tèt nou ki pral eksplike, defini batay politik-la nan sosyete nou-an. Yon batay politik kote nou aksepte ke kolon-an vin fè abit. Kidonk, menmjan ak pèp azyatik, arab sa-yo, fòk nou devlope kay jèn nou-yo yon santiman patriyotik ki chita sou kilti ayisyèn-nan. Se poutèt sa, mwen panse ke transfòsmasyon sosyete nou-an paka koumanse lòt kote ke anndan lekòl nan mete anpil aksan sou kreyòl, vodou; nan denonse, eksplike kouman depi 200 zan sosyete nou-an rete yon sosyete kolonize, esklav. Kolonize, esklav nan sans ke se tout vye prejije rasis, vye konsepsyon de lavi nou, peyi nou, ras nou nou ke kolon-yo te foure nan tèt nou ki kontinye ap kondisyone tout sa n' ap fè.

Nou ka obsève ke nan sosyete azyatik ak arab sa-yo ki pa sou lobedyans kolon-yo, sa pa anpeche gen ti chirepit ant plizyè pati politik nan sans ke chak gen pwòp pwogram-li pou devlopman peyi-a. Se poutèt sa mwen te di nou gendwa gen yon menm vizyon ki ale nan enterè peyi-a san nou pa blije wè solisyon-an menmjan; san nou pa blije nonplis nan goumen youn ak lòt. Gen plizyè pati politik nan anpil peyi ann Azi, nan Brezil, ann End, nan Pakistan, ann Iran, men sa pa pèmèt ke kolon-yo achte yon pati politik oubyen li antre vin fè sa-l vle.

Kisa nou ka remake. Jodi-a tout konpatriyòt ki wè oubyen ki vle patisipe nan liberasyon Ayiti tout bon vre deja libere tèt-yo anba chenn envizib lesklavaj-la. Nou ka remake tou ke frè nou sa-yo gen yon vizyon klè de avni peyi-a; yo gen de lide ki solid sou kesyon òganizasyon popilè. Se nan diskou zanmi sa-yo nou ka wè kijan yo libere tout bon vre. Kidonk, liberasyon Ayiti paka soti lòt kote ke nan mitan pakèt Ayisyen sa-yo ka p libere tèt-yo; ka p wè pi klè chak jou nan jwèt senkyèm kolòn-yo ka p travay pou lenmi peyi-a. Kite-m di pou-m fini ke pafwa yon gouvènman nasyonalis, pwogresis gen mezi li ka pran pou oubyen fòse senkyèm kolòn-yo repanti oubyen met silans sou-yo. Politik, malerezman, p
a yon jwèt ki fasil nan peyi kolonize, esklav Tyè Monn-yo. Se poutèt li enpòtan anpil pou nou diskite sou kijan n' ap pran chimen ki mennen nan soti tinèl-la.


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Malpwopte Ayisyen pa pi red ke malpwopte miltinasyonal yo ..

Postby Ezili Danto* » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:37 am

Guy,

This post responds to your response to Pitit Ginen in his post “Dife nan wel sanguine-yo.” (See, Pitit Ginen Post dated: Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:37 am. Post subject: Dife nan wèl sanginè-yo and Gus’s response posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:28 pm, Post subject: Ki taktik pou nou adopte nan fè fas kalamite sa yo?)

I put it here, under this topic, in order to follow the thread I want to focus on in my dialogues, and, with these various interconnected issues.

Guy my friend, I won’t go into the details of your rejoinder to Pitit Ginen because, I agree, in principle, that the developing nations are hamstrung. I add that, that doesn’t mean they should not support the people of Iraq, even if they are themselves economically and politically powerless. I believe the mass people's peace demonstrations we saw when the War had started, testify that the majority of the worlds's peoples reject what the US was and is doing to an Iraqi country that is 50% made up of children! For, most of their adult males have already been killed by Hussein and/or US-sponsored terror there over recent decades.

I believe you would agree with me that an international people-over-profit-solidarity, is crucial. You are right there. I have no quarrel with you there, or, with most of the observations made in your post, dated June 22, entitled “Ki taktik pou nou adopte nan fè fas kalamite sa yo?"

However, in reading that post Guy, dated June 22, I find myself back, to generalize, refocus and simplify, back to that same old question. That is, should we focus on rectifying Black on Black crimes, or, mobilize our resources and strategies against a White power structure intent on the destruction of Black people? I ‘m not saying you say these two are mutually exclusive. No, you don’t say that. But you do say that it’s not about White against Black or People of Color against White people and I want to comment on that. For, as I’ve said I find myself, in reading your post facing the question of which is worst, Black fratricide, or, White hoarding and destruction of Black people, and what strategy should we take? I repeat, for me it’s for us to look outwards together, and I mean first together as Black people, as Haitians, as Africans, as Ginen. Without that legitimacy, we, like Condoleeza and Colin, would have only one leg to stand on - the use of might, White entitlements and other such hand me downs based on innate fear.

Back in the day, W. E. B. DuBois, that great Black American intellectual of Haitian descent, he too faced that issue. So did Booker T. and on to Malcom vs. Martin. It’s just that the issue was framed differently. It was framed as integration vs. separation. Either way, the result for both Malcom and Martin were the same. They both were assassinated by the White power structure in complicity with the imperial agents of that structure. So, do we learn from history, or, keep repeatin
g old mistakes?

Thing is, Haiti is a majority Black nation. We must get rid of the monopoly that theWhite-US- power-structure and their representatives in Haiti have amassed over Haitian politics and economics. We must get rid of that power over us in order to be an operable, functioning, sovereign Black nation. That's it.

That doesn’t mean we hate white people. We are just talking about the strategy to face our oppressors here. And I say if Dessaline had stood around trying to contemplate whether to convince people like Moise to look outwards towards the Haitian’s enemy, we would still be under their White chains and lashes, still enslaved.

No, Dessaline clearly identified the enemy. “Blan, blan, blan pa vle we Dessaline. Blan, blan, blan, Dessaline pa vle we Blan.” I learnt that nursery rhyme before I had any sort of consciousness about Blan yo, and now that I do: I understand why Dessaline had to “Koupe tet, boule kay.”

I understand that, and understand that he knew how to
set alliances too, even with White people. For, he let live and made alliances with those whites in Haiti, who fought on the side of liberty. Those Polish and Germans there, who decided to fight on the side of the African liberators.

If not for that, I probably would not exist. Because, as you know, both my parents come from Fond Des Blan. That is, that white enclave, Dessaline let remain within his Black nation. And so, these whites were defined, by Dessaline’s Constitution, as “Haitian” not by color but by character. Let’s not forget a Haitian, as Dessaline saw it was “a lover of liberty.” It just so happened, at that time, in world history in Haiti, they were mostly all Africans.

Now, I am willing to believe the White world has changed since then. But I am not willing to go on their fake innocence and trust in their “good will.” For Black people both in Haiti and in the US, we need to mobilize ourselves and face them based on what history has shown us, not on hope and faith in the probable conscience of White progressives within the White power structure.

So, yes we must make alliances with progressive White Americans and people of all colors, races and creeds. I agree with you, Guy, on that. The Washington Consensus otherwise, called, “globalization” is suffocating people everywhere, including the majority of US citizens. Yet in still, for me, within the US, it’s the almost 90% young Black males languishing in US jails in a population where we are only 12%. It’s that, which holds my attention.

Most progressive whites here are not in that fight the way I am. They are not as concern about this as they are, for instance about global warming, and animal rights.

You see, those Black men, women and children in US jails or living in containment-in-poverty in US-sponsored urban ghettos, fact is, they look like the child that would slide down my Black thighs. So, I am FORCED to cross a different chemen, a different kafou; I have a different view.

I have see who the enemy is, and its not Condoleeza Rice nor Colin Powell. I’ve said it and I’ll say it again, they ,those that is, who feel ENTITLED to commercialize Black pain and force us into dependency, they are white men and their patriarchy. The Patriarchs with power to imprison more than half of the US Black population carries a White face. The Black opportunist doesn’t have that power without White Consent, White Force, White Entitlements. Period.

Point is, how does Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powel fit, within this global struggle for the souls of African, resources and life? What are they but, simple educated tragic Black elites, who have chosen the opportunists path.

Now, that is generalizing because I also recognize, that, at least Colin Powell, used to have a conscience, a recognition that his color was being used to give legitimacy to power structure pronouncement destroying his own Black community. I pity him even though he doesn't deserve my pity today because he should have resigned the Bush administration long ago, rather than be such a pawn and puppet; propped up at every UN gathering to do the Bush boys’ biddings. He should have quit like many of his White colleagues have, rather than let his color be used and exploited this way; rather than give away the accumulated legitimacy and righteousness that’s been inherent, inseparable, innate in the Black struggle against White tyranny in the US since day one. But for profit, he has commercialized his skin color, made it a commodity and sold it to the Whites for their imperial uses. There’s no difference between what he’s doing than what the discredited local elites in Haiti are doing. I don’t respect this, just as I have no respect for the local agents of imperial power now in Haiti looking to regain their old positions.

But I am clear, that though we need to built alliances worldwide in order to successfully face US neoliberalism, fascist economics and undemocratic political policies and motives, I am also clear on this -the enemy is WHITE.


nThe Black opportunist can be rehabilitated. After all, he or she is an opportunist. He or she will work, without conscience, just towards profit and survival. Such people will always exists, but that’s not the community we want to give legitimacy to in Haiti, or anywhere else for that matter. Now, I am not saying your post does that, What I am saying is the Black opportunist, he or she will tell you that survival, by any means necessary, is a worthy goal. There is merit to this in terms of the overall genocide, some of us must survive to fight another day. But, that is not what I would like to see develop and systemized in Haiti or anywhere else. That’s a last ditch strategy. For, survival, to me, without integrity is too soul destroying to be meaningful. I, hold the view that it’s better die on my feet than on my knees; better to die fighting than survive by sucking dry the blood of Black bloated-bellied defenseless children in Haiti, Iraq, Palestine, India, South America or Africa.

I, believe also, that I speak this for the MAJORITY of Haitians who have, in fact, notwithstanding all the bri lari you hear, who have, in fact said NO to US-sponsored dictatorship in Haiti and its attendant economic policies and NO to, to simple, formal electoral democracy like the one under Aristide. We are not going to go away in apathy, We won’t be depoliticized. We reserve the right to participate in the mandate given Aristide while we work to built more consensus within, while we work a strategy to bare wout blan yo kap eseye detrui sa nou deja mete en plas la.

What we actually don’t yet understand or know is the extent, the full extent of the White power structures tyranny. But that is being rectified. Believe me, I am not the only Haitian-American dedicated to this end. For, I very much doubt, anyone will ever convince me that white people’s fake innocence is real. The fact remains, I am Black woman and where our roads diverge on that yellow path, for they enjoy their entitlements at the expense of a child that would slid down my Black thigh. And that, I am afraid makes them forever guilty. Period.

Yes, I speak as a Black woman and reserve that right no matter how ugly it sounds to anyone. Because the ugliness my Black people must face, in that dance they must dance with White racism, is soul destroying, It is what creates Blan peyi yo, that Haitian corruption, the Haitian opportunist, Black American opportunists. And though, Franz Fanon, has shown, (and your post reiterates this) why our own, those very people we may have dedicate our life to assist, probably are the closest to hurting us, though I know that, yet and still, in order to leave something of consequence behind and continue holding that line given to me by the Ancestors, I focus on destroying the influence of the White power structure in Haiti first and foremost. Experience is the teacher. And, my experiences with them, with USAID and the US Embassy have brought me to this road. I personally don’t see I have another choice. Fear is not an option.

Now, I don’t expect every single progressive Haitian to share this view. We can agree to disagree. For there is room for all positive pro-Ginen initiatives. We can built coalitions even while some of us are more tolerant than others of paternalism, in its myriad forms

But don’t get it twisted, back at that red hilltop at a wood clearing called “Bwa Kayiman” we went way, way, pass these divisions.

Yes, because of Pepe miseducation, noneducation, and not knowing our own history, we had to pull hard for the psychic energy within ourselves that would allow us to kill the current of negative European energies swallowing us whole, making us have, as Dubois says, these double visions. But, on that hilltop, as I’ve dramatized, on that hilltop, “the great Manbo Cecil Fatiman took Boukmann’s hand into hers, “lead my children out of slavery in eight days.” she told him, while cutting the throat of a kochon bigot.” (Quoted from Ezili’s Bwa Kayiman writings.)

So, in this search for strategy to face our oppressors, let’s not forget both Dessaline and Manbo Cecil Fatiman knew full well who the enemy was. They didn’t look at one Haitian person’s weaknesses or at Moise or Haitian internal divisions ( To allude, a bit to, Edelma’s June 22, 2003 poetic post., posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:58 pm, post subject: L’opposition, stratégie politique ou ruse anti-haïtienne.) They looked outwards together. That light, dapple pig that Ezili Danto had Cecil Fatiman kill, that throat she cut, that kochon represented the white colonists.

That action showed the gathered Africans what needed to be done! Understand that, and don’t get it twisted. We need to face Haitian fratricide yes, but that’s not the primary cause of Haitian misery, White underdevelopment, exploitation and their USAID/US Embassy undemocratic programs that feed dependency, starves democracy - these programs forcing the Haitian people into dependency, are the main cause for our Haitian misery. (Reference further, the Grassroots International report, posted on this Forum, Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:46 pm, Post subject: Dependency, Democracy, and USAID Policies in Haiti and JAF’s very important rejoinder, posted, Sat Jun 21, 2003 10:37 pm. Post subject: They do know what they are doing...!, which I support 100% and intend to add to, sometime soon, along with Ezili’s answers to Pitit Ginen’s queries in the above post dated Sat, Jun 21, 2003 7:15 am about how the NGO in Haiti get to do what they do. Perhaps in another format, Guy? I know I promised you a USAID article more than 3 years ago. Now seems to be the time. As for, Ezili’s Bwa Kayiman writings,” you will get it Guy, before I perform it next.)

For now, I reiterate and restate, in full, in this post too, what I said in my text, posted under the General subject: Respect Haiti ! Ayiti Granmoun, which I posted to Jaf, on Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:33 pm, starting with the text “Nou la net…” But, I end this post with this: contrary to popular veves of Ezili Danto, which would make you think otherwise, it wasn’t a Black pig’s throat that was cut that night when our ancestors decided: libete ou lamo! I shall further explain, if necessary, plu devan.

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A few points in response to Erzili's post

Postby Guy » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:59 am

Ezili, you are indeed a beloved sister that I appreciate at the highest level of esteem in which I hold Pitit Ginen and Jafrikayiti, not to mention other less active members of this forum. Your post leaves much to respond to, and I do intend to come back to it when time permits. However, allow me to make for now some broad or ancillary comments.

There is a lot that you have stated in your response that I already agreed with and that I have certainly not argued against. Then again, there are differences in the ways that we look at the world and the history of mankind. The reality is the same, but The Creator gave us different colored glasses through which we view this reality. For the vitality of this platform, we necessarily concentrate on our differences rather than our points of general agreement, but it should never be forgotten that we are all engaged in the same struggle: the
fight against inequity in this world we temporarily live in, to create a better tomorrow for those who will come after us.

Some of the ways we look at the world:
1. Dominance of a race, seeking to impose itself as a super-race and bent on destroying other races: The Global White Supremacy view that Jafrikayiti and yourself have championed on this forum for a long time already, with solid argumentation. No, you are far from being the only Haitian-Americans to view the world in that manner. You have a lot more company than you think. Yet you would be mistaken, in my view, if you became so ideologically rigid to think that yours is the only view with validity. We still have much to learn from the philosophical overtones of Einstein's Theory of Relativity (though it specifically addresses the relativism of our physical universe).

2. Dominance of a few nations, people or civilizations over a much greater number of nations, people or civilizations. Another way to look at the world, that I be
lieve is closer to Pitit Ginen's approach than that of the struggle against the Global White Supremacy.

3. Still another way to look at the world and the history of mankind, is a multi-class society, in which a privileged one emerges and fights tooth and nail not only to preserve the privileges it has acquired but is bent on exploiting the less privileged or broad "sub-classes" of people (without intent of extermination, as this would not at all be in their interest, but with intent of disenfranchisement... There lies perhaps a subtle but distinct difference from the Global White Supremacy view, which often speaks of the clear intent to eliminate rather than forever exploit). Without necessarily subscribing to Marxism or the political systems derived from it, such as communism, I tend to wear this particular set of lenses to view the realities of this world, more so than those described above, though I always keep in mind that no matter how differ in our views, the realities will still be the same an
d they are punishing indeed.

That being said, I will quickly point out a couple of items from your note:

1. You said: "I agree, in principle, that the developing nations are hamstrung. I add that, that doesn’t mean they should not support the people of Iraq, even if they are themselves economically and politically powerless."

I feel that it is very important for me to express that I never meant to imply in the least that developing nations should not support the people of Iraq. That would be very, very far from my viewpoint. I simply attempted to ease Pitit Ginen from the path of adding layers of culpability to the seeming inability of developing nations from changing the events as they actually unfolded. We MUST organize against future Iraq-style imperialist adventures, and the multi-racial and international demonstrations that you describe probably have a longer term effect than is immediately obvious.

2. You say: "The Black opportunist can be rehabilitated." I feel that thi
s point of view is extremely dangerous, that for the most part it is not realistic. The so-called Black opportunist can be rehabilitated, in my view, with the same set of odds that the White racist can be rehabilitated. This is perhaps our greatest difference, but we need much more time to expand on that.

3. You say: "I also recognize, that, at least Colin Powell, used to have a conscience, a recognition that his color was being used to give legitimacy to power structure pronouncement destroying his own Black community." Are you so sure, sister?

Again, I don't have much time to get into that but I think that Colin Powell has been Colin Powell from Day one. Look up the role that he has played in the coverup of the My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War, as well as his record of direct influence in the illegal invasion of Panama and the two Gulf Wars. I do not consider myself a "Powell basher", as I look rather pragmatically at the whole political structure, however I find it strange when people
hold on to a rather sentimental view of Powell which they absolutely will not accord to others. Colin Powell has accomplished much, in spite of the odds. I, for one, do not subscribe to calling him a "house nigger" in the way favored by Harry Belafonte and others, for that matter. However, I do hold Colin Powell to the same rigorous set of moral criteria, and I find him particularly lacking.

Sister, this is only the beginning of what I would like to express, because you pack so much in each one of your messages. However, I must stop here at this point and look forward to a continuing dialogue. I also want to say that I am glad you have not forgotten the long ago promised article on your interactions with USAID and how those interactions have shaped your particular view of the struggle. I also look forward to reading your "Bwa Kayiman writings", but even more to see you perform it. As always, I think that your participation brings much enrichment to Windows on Haiti, even when we disagree on cert
ain points.

One thing that I do find very encouraging is that so many of us are dedicated in the struggle against inequity in this world. I just hope and wish that we learn to make strong alliances, in the same manner that those opposing us have made their own alliances to keep our heads under the surface.
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keksyon ki gen nan'm ak jèvrin.

Postby Edelma » Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:56 pm

Se san di pètèt ke'w genyen san pou san rezon lè ou mande eske pwoblèm Ayty ka reskonsablyte youn sel moun. Mwen menm avè'w gen men'm lyde sou keksyon sila-a.
Si nou fè pwoblèm Ayty fòt youn sèl moun, sè di ke nou pre pou'n fè denmen Ayty lèv youn sèl krytyen vivan. Ki pa posib paske men'm jan you sèl dwèt pa manje kalalou, you sèl bra paka brize you chan kalalou. Pa konsekan se nou tout ansan'm ki ka fè malè Ayati men'm jan se nou tout ansan'm ki ka fè bonè'l. Sèt ystwa de di ke se fòt entèl ou byen se fòt entel se koze moun fou, pawòl pou fè dodo tytyt. An'n tanmen kòve ya jodi-a pou denmen ka pi bèl, an'n bouke devore zantray nou tribò babò.

Konpliman e respè pou refleksyon ki gen jevri'n sa-a yo.

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