Where are the results?

Where are the results?

Postby Charles Arthur » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:48 am

It is nearly 10 am on 9 February in Haiti. That is 42 hours since the polling stations officially closed. The CEP said it would release partial results - I heard the BBC reporter say she had been told that would happen once 20% of returns had been collated.

I am getting worried about what is going on. If the reactionaries have been forced to admit that they are not going to get the Presidency, then I fear they are fixing to rig the Parliamentary results in their favour. Is anyone paying any attention to the Senate and Deputy elections????????????????
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Postby jafrikayiti* » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:09 am

That's where the danger is. In fact, I doubt if Lespwa had an overwhelming presence in the Parliament, the "internationals" would have been so cordial with him. So, yes, they are likely counting on giving seats to the IRI funded "parties" and we risk finding ourselves exactly where we were in 1997-98.

Like I said, Haitians had better learn how to pray with their eyes wide open. Dancing the victory dance does not mean to forget there is a real struggle to be fought...The enemy is smiling but cannot be trusted.

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The number of Lespwa legislative candidates

Postby Charles Arthur » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:29 am

Lespwa put up 19 candidates for the 30 Senate seats, and 58 candidates for the 99 Deputy seats.

Looks to me like they all might go to a second round, but if anyone can explain the Senate process, please do so.

I have just read the electoral law. It says that a Senate candidate must poll an absolute majority in order to be elected in the first round. BUT the voter is instructed to chose three candidates on each ballot paper - for the three candidates per department.

Therefore, presuming that most voters do pick three candidates on each ballot paper, it is impossible for one candidate to score more than 50%. For example, even if in one department, Lespwa has three Senate candidates (as in the South-East), and every single voter votes for them, the maximum that any one candidate can get is 33.3% of the votes cast. All three candidates would have to enter the second round run-off to d
etermine which one serves six years, which one four and which one two.

Tell me if this is right or wrong. I can't see another way of it working.

Or is the absolute majoirty calculated on the number of valid ballot papers? For example, if there were 100 voters in the South-East who voted, and 51 of them voted for all three Lespwa candidates, and the 49 others voted for all sorts of other candidates, would that mean all three Lespwa candidates are elected in the first round? No, that's not possible, because we would not know then which one serves six, which one four and which one two years.

Please, somebody must know this time!!!!!
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Election news

Postby Charles Arthur » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:37 am

9 fevrier - Signal FM

Un centre de vote de 12 bureaux a été incendié dans la nuit de mardi à mercredi à Bourdon, localité de la commune de Chambellan.

Le représentant d'un parti politique impliqué dans le processus électoral serait responsable de cet incendie,

A Verrettes, 12 personnes dont deux candidats à la députation ont été arrêtées mardi pour avoir créées une situation de désordre le jour du vote.

Les deux candidats concernés sont respectivement de L'Artibonite en Action et de Fusion des Sociaux-démocrates.
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Postby Hyppolite » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:00 pm

Strange but true. Leslie Manigat is confirming that Preval won't need a second round. Is he the next PM? That's what it sounds like. Let's wait and see.
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Postby Frantz* » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:13 pm

But does Manigat expect to win enough seats in the parliament to be the chosen PM? Another question, with whom the next President will be dealing in the Supreme Court if no party gets the majority?

One Respe to my brothers and sisters for keeping hope alive!
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Postby Hyppolite » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:38 pm

In response to Padel's question, I suspect that no party will really have a majority in Parliament. They will all have a consensus prime minister. That's just my suspicion.
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Postby Apharion » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:03 pm

I just got this from the BBC website:

Initial results from around the Haitian capital show Preval has more than 60% of the votes, electoral officials say.

Another ex-leader, Leslie Manigat, has 13.8%, while industrialist Charles Henry Baker has 6.1%, results show.
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Postby jafrikayiti* » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:07 pm

Go there and see how the data gets updated on the CEP's website.

http://207.234.224.237/eis/
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Postby T-dodo » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:04 am

From the website pointed by Jaf, you can, after a couple of clicks leading you to this page, you can get a resume of the latest results posted by the CEP:

http://207.234.224.237/eis/report-presi ... -OUEST.pdf
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Postby guysanto* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:28 am

Jean-Marie, fòk ou ajoute ke lyen ou bay la, se pou rezilta pasyèl Depatman Lwès la. Fòk moun konnen ke Depatman Lwes la se pa tout peyi a li ye. Ti presizyon sa yo bon anpil.
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Postby T-dodo » Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:19 pm

Mèsi Guy. Mwen te konprann ke rezime an te pou tout. Eskize m pou erè a.

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Postby MichelNau* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:45 pm

Le map gade resilta eleksyion prezidansyel sa, mwen pa kwe ap genyen yon deziem tou!

Li pa nesese!! Paske moun ki an deziem pozisyon an pap gen ase sipo de res kandida yo pou’l ale nan yon deziem tou.
Plis ke la moatye lot res kandida yo ap bay sipo yo petet a pati LESPWA.
Konklisyon ke mwen kap tire nan statistic eleksyion sa se ke: Anpil lot mesye sa yo ki te gen pretansyon vinn prezidan, eleksyion sa se yon kout dlo fret byen glase ke pep la voye nan figi yo.
Sa reveye konsyans yo e fe yo we realite an fas, e fok yo vinn pa remake ke yo pa gen repondonn pou vinn prezidan.
Fok mesye sa yo konmanse mete expektasyon yo yon ti gout pli ba e kómanse pa chache job ki a la ote yo.

Mesaj ke pep la voye bayo se ke : La marinn pa metye yo!!

Ooooh refi, refi!!
Min w pa jamb konnin, mesye sa yo komanse ap chante: pa genanyen pou dekouraje nou nan 5 ane anko na retounin.

pa genanyen pou dekouraje nou nan 5 an
e anko na retounin oooh. oooh refi, refi!!
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Postby Serge Bellegarde* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:00 pm

Pou repon kesyon Padel te mande sou kouman pou chwazi Premye Minis la si pa gen pati ki gen majorite, atik 137 Konstitisyon di ke lè sa rive ke ni youn ni lòt pa gen majorite, Prezidan kole tèt ak Prezidan Sena ak Prezidan Chanm Depite a pou chwzi yon Premye Minis.
Nan tou de ka sa yo, fòk Palman apre sa ratifye chwa sa.

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Postby Anacaona* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:56 pm

To you all

There is an article on AHP about the election's result that I found very funny. One of the candidates is crying for second place. Michel di pèp la voye you gode dlo frèt nan figi neg yo, men sa kap kriye pou dezyèm plas la genlè li poko konprann mesaj pèp la ou byen se je chèch lap fè. Nèg sa yo merite pou yo chante san ront san santiman pou yo.

Ses the article at http://www.ahphaiti.org/ndujour

Anacaona!
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Postby Gelin* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:39 pm

Anacaona,

se sak fè menm fòk nou ta gen MINAPA a: Mize Nasyonal Politisyen Aryere. Mesye sa yo, se la pou yal mete pòtre yo paske yo pap janm konprann ke depi gen demokrasi toutbonvre, plas yo se nan mize sa ye....

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Postby DPean » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:29 pm

According to the last information I just got, it seems that the CEP is trying to make the election go to a second round. It seems a lot of votes are being marked as invalid. It seems that it is required for Preval to get more than 50 percent of the total votes, not 50 percent of the counted votes. Let's say, 1000 people vote, but only 900 of those votes are counted, Preval still needs to get 501 votes in order that there is not a second round. That does not seem right to me. If I had to guess, I would guess that the votes marked as invalid are Preval's votes. It seems some people are playing all their cards to force a second round.
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Postby jafrikayiti* » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:39 pm

I maintain that all the gymnastics you see happening on that front are mere distractions. They are really negotiating the Prime Minister and other ministerial positions and how to divy the legislative seats among the IRI and EU-funded pro-2004 coup gang.

So, they will play with the numbers and with perception by relaeasing the results selectively (emphasizing the results where Préval has less votes when needed) - all in the aim of getting people to conclude - that Préval's victory was not such a landslide as the long lines and the jubilant crowds seem to suggest. Don't believe what you see, believe what we tell you.

These folks are master deceivers. Manufacturing "realities" is their art. You could say they invented the Weapons of Mass Deception - all rights reserved !

But, don't be mistaken, even they need a Préval victory in the first round. Because if they go to 2nd round, they would have to kill a lot of p
eople in order to stop Preval from getting a more evident (90%) victory where the people of Haiti would actually have to stay in the streets day and night until their elected President takes office. They do not need all this drama.

In due time, I predict they will concede a 52% Preval victory. Just enough to make it clear that he must adhere to their choice for Prime Minister...Of course,, as soon as President Preval would deviate from their scripted path, you will start seing article in their press explaining how, in keeping with constitutional order, it must be remembered that the Prime Minister of Haiti is actually the one who should be running things and this and that....

As sister Marguerite reminded us, by now, the people know the devil as well as his tricks.

Yo tire sou nou yo pran. Yo pa tire sou nou yo pran!

A lutta continua ! Amandla !
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Official: Rèsultats partiel des elections du 7 Fèvrier 2006?

Postby Ezili Danto* » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:32 am

From: Bureau du Premier Ministre
Date: February 10, 2006 20:35:25 GMT-05:00
Subject: [Primature] Résultats partiels des élections du 7 février 2006 ( Plan National)

Le Bureau de Presse et de Communication du Premier Ministre, S.E. M. Gérard Latortue

Obligation est faite à l'État de donner publicité par voie de presse parlée, écrite et télévisée, en langues créole et française aux lois, arrêtés, décrets, accords internationaux, traités, conventions, à tout ce qui touche la vie nationale, exception faite pour les informations relevant de la sécurité nationale. Article 40, Constitution de 1987

Voici les résultats partiels des élections du 7 février 2006 sur le plan national qui ont été publiés par le CEP à l'hôtel Montana le vendredi 10 février à 7h 30 PM.

1. Préval, René G. 50.26%
2. Manigat, Leslie F. 11,41%
3
. Baker, Charles Jean-Marie 8,30%
4. Jeune, Jean Chavane 5.31%
5.Gilles, Serge 2,61%
6. Paul, Evans 2,28%
7. Denis, Paul 2,28%
8. Mesadieu Luc 2,11%
9. Fleurinor, Luc 1,99%
10. Phillipe, Guy 1,73%

Pour de plus amples renseignements, prière de visiter le site du CEP: http://www.cep-ht.org
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Postby Apharion » Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:21 pm

I pulled this off of the BBC news webpage today:

The prospect of a second, run-off round in Haiti's presidential election grew as the results after two-thirds of the votes had been counted were announced.
Former President Rene Preval, a one-time ally of ousted leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide, saw his share of the vote drop to 49.6%.

Mr Preval needs at least 50% to avoid a run-off round, and final results are expected on Sunday.
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