CEP violated their own laws. They're improvising!

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Ezili Danto
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CEP violated their own laws. They're improvising!

Post by Ezili Danto » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:48 pm

Our preliminary review indicates that these CEP folks have violated their own laws. (See electoral law at: http://www.cep-ht.org/loielectoral.html )

Milchelnau ekri[quote]Men le biltin yo rive nan lakou CEP a, gen trop je kap gade, trop jij ki la pou fe konsta pou ke move zak fet. http://www.haitiforever.com/forum/viewt ... 4029#14029[/quote]

A quick look at the CEP's own laws, show that the "biltin" that Michelnaw writes about pa te sipoze "rive nan lakou CEP a" ditou, ditou.

That is, the actual ballots were NOT supposed to be at the tabulation center in Port au Prince, only the proces-verbaux. Only the already COMPILED sheet of the ballots. (See article 191 below). The examinations of ballots should have taken place at the Bureau de vote, first. See Article 191, 192 and 193. It doesn'
t take a law degree to read, as per the electoral law that the defacto CEP authorities themselves wrote, that the examination of ballots was supposed to have taken place at the polling stations (Bureau de vote).

GOD WAS LOOKING OUT FOR US: What saved this elections for the people of Haiti is that these folks, these supposedly EDUCATED folks, spent millions of dollars on computers that, at the end of the day, they found they could not use at the polling stations because, suprise, suprise, suprise, NO ELECTRICITY

So, these geniuses put ALL the computers in Port au Prince!!!! No polling places in Site Soley. Inquiring minds wanna know WHO POCKETED the money given for these elections! US citizens need to start asking about how their monies where spent in these elections!

The REALITY IS that after TWO YEARS of these smart technocrats systematic destruction and coruption of the Haitian bodi politic, infrastru
cture and environment, they could not have computers at the polling stations, where they should have been.Therefore, as per the electoral law that they wrote, the examination (verification, classification and counting) of ballots was supposed to have taken place at the polling stations (Bureau de vote), while the computers could only be used in Port-au-Prince, thanks to the "good work" of the technocrats, literally fleecing the country to blackout.

As you will see in the translation, the CEP was not to manipulate votes. But ALAS, they had to, because the computers that was to carry out this HIGH TECH theft were not where they were supposed to be to facilitate the theft. They were in Port-au-Prince!!!!!

Folks, examine the laws for yourselves. We are still reviewing the issues. But here is a quick (rough) and unofficial translation of the appropriate CEP rules addressing this matter.Time is of the essence and if HLLN is to give concern Haitians the tools to understand what's happening,
we can't dot all the i, right this minute. By tomorrow if there are some corrections to be made in the translations, it will be made. Otherwise for the originals, please go to http://www.cep-ht.org/loielectoral.html or http://www.archivex-ht.com/feed/loi_electoral.php.

[quote]Section F. Of Examination (Counting of votes)

Article 184.- The count begins once the polling station closes. It continues nonstop in the presence of recognized party representatives, political groups or political coalitions, tickets and candidates, and of duly mandated national and international observers. Nobody can leave or enter the voting bureau (polling station) unless they have a special authorization from the voting bureau president.

Article 185.- Ballots marked by a cross, an “X” or any other sign unequivocally signifying the elector's intentions to vote, in the space in the space (circle, picture, logo) reserved for a candidate are validated and counted.

Blank ballots are validated and c
ounted.

Ballots where the Bureau can't identify the elector's intention or political will are declared void.

Article 186.- Prior to opening the urns (containing the votes), the unused ballots are counted and placed in a previously designated envelops. These envelopes are sealed; the number of ballots placed in these envelopes is recorded on each envelope as well as the official ballot examination report, as per article 189.

Article 187.- For each urn, the president counts out aloud, for all present to see and know:

- The ballots obtained and expressed in favor of a coalition or a candidate;

- The blank ballots;

- The ballots declared void.

Upon counting each category of ballots, he classifies them in three piles according to directives indicated by paragraph 1, 2 and 3 of the first subparagraph.


Article 188.- Upon counting all the votes, the members of the bureau of vote (polling stations) classify the ballots from each urn in separate envelops, t
he following way:

- Valid votes for a coalition or a candidate

- Blank votes

- Void votes


Article 189.- The president subsequently draws the official report of examination (counting), noting:

- The number of ballots received;

- The total number of used ballots;

- The number of unused ballots;

- The number of votes expressed in favor of candidates or ticket;

- The number of blank ballots;

- The number of voided ballots;

- Protests of recognized representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions, tickets or candidates, based on decisions of members of the bureau of vote;

- Any incident they deem relevant enough to figure in the official report of examination (counting) of the vote.

He gives three (3) examination (counting) official report originals directly to the Bureau Electoral Communal (BEC) supervisor.

Article 190.- The official report of the examination (counting) is drawn up, then signed by the B
ureau of vote (polling station) members, and the recognized representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions, tickets or candidates. The official report is prepared in at least six (6) signed originals. If the recognized representative of a political party, group or coalition, ticket or candidate, refuses to sign the official report, the motives or allegations prompting the refusal will be duly noted. The protests have no immediate bearing and can only have an effect at a later date. If a majority of the recognized representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions, tickets or candidates refuse to sign the official report; the BED - Bureau Électoral Départemental or Departmental Electoral Bureau - will automatically take over and will intervene without delay to resolve the problem. A copy of the official report will be given to the supervisor as well as each mandated representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions, tickets or candidates that are present.

Article 191.- An o
riginal of the official report is posted at the door of the Bureau de vote (polling station) by the president of the bureau, and the other originals are forwarded as follows:

- One to the BEC

- Two to the BED that will in turn forward one to the CEP

- The others go to the candidate representatives that witnessed the examination (counting).


Article 192.- The President of the Bureau de vote (polling station) surrenders to the BEC, in envelops previously prepared for that purpose, the following documents:

- The official report (procès-verbal) of the opening of the polling station;

- The official report (procès-verbal) of the closing of the polling station;

- Two official reports (procès-verbaux) of ballot examination (counting);

- Electors' register;

- The papers used for the count;

- The verified ballots envelops mentioned by articles 186 and 188;

- A list of conten
ts.

The BEC retains an original version of the official report of the examination, the envelops containing the ballots used and unused, and forwards the rest to the BED. The BED retains an official report of the examination and forwards the rest to the CEP.


Article 193.- Upon compiling the votes submitted on the official reports, the BEC posts the results of all compiled ballots on the door of the (BEC) Bureau Electoral Communal (Communal Electoral Bureau).

Within twenty-four hours, the BEC forwards a complete report to the BED (Bureau Électoral Départemental) (Departmental Electoral Bureau).


Section G. Of Publishing the Results

Article 194.- Upon reviewing all BEC reports, official reports and unofficial, the BED publishes, without delay, the elections results for the department that concerns it, noting when there are protests of candidates or recognized representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions. The BED dr
aws up a report including all relevant data found in the official reports as well as all protests of candidates or recognized representatives of political parties, groups or coalitions. This report is transmitted to the CEP within at most forty-eight hours. The results of all voting are posted on the door of the BED (Bureau Electoral Departmental).

Article 195.- The CEP, upon resolving all problems, proclaims the elections' final results.[/quote]

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:22 pm

Ezili ekri: [quote]KEP a li menm pa respekte lwa li fè pou tet li.
That is, the actual ballots were NOT supposed to be at the tabulation center in Port au Prince, only the proces-verbaux. Only the already COMPILED sheet of the ballots. (See article 191 below). they could not have computers at the polling stations, where they should have been, because, suprise, suprise, suprise, NO ELECTRICITY .[/quote]

Yes indeed Ezili, they did violate their own law!
But these violations were not intended to defraud or to disenfranchise the Haitian people.
They were taking as a precautionary measures, and to carry on the electoral process.
As you mentioned, the computers would not operate properly due to a lack of electricity, and counting the ballots on the spot at a remote area under candle lights proved to be a call for fraud, so therefore bringing those ballots to be counted in Port-au-Prince prove to be the righ
t thing to do.

In addition, they did not have FedEx or UPS, to carry those ballots, but donkeys, and trucks. Under those circumstances, the deviation from the law was acceptable.
Ezili wrote: [quote]Let's forget Bazin could never and has never legitimately represented the political party called Fanmi Lavalas; Michelnau, you don't know the difference between the Lavalas suits, the renegade Lavalas who signed-up Bazin, from the Lavalas grassroots, or even from the Lavalas MOVEMENT[/quote]
Lavalas.org a ecrit:[quote]Il faut donc saluer un Bazin, candidat d'un secteur de Fanmi Lavalas, qui avait déclaré samedi dernier déjà, que c'est pour René Préval que plus d'un million d'électeurs s'étaient rués vers les urnes le 7 février.[/quote]

Yes Ezili you are right again!!
We don't really know which LAVALAS, Bazin represented at the 2006 presidential election. As far the people are concerne
d about the legitimacy of his representation.

The Haitian people didn't really care.

Nevertheless, History and election records will reveal that the “LAVALAS” participated in the 2006 presidential election, and Marc Louis Bazin was its official candidate. He obtained a score of 0.% of the votes.

Happy Valentine's Day :D

OXOXOXOX!!

Michel

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:28 pm

Jaf wrote: [quote]That is if "HIStory" is to be written by pathological liars like the chimères of Washington at the HDP and IRI. But, the story of the Haitian people will record that Fanmi Lavalas DID NOT PARTICIPATE in these elections because of the reasons identified in the press releases of the elected leaders of the party. See www.Hayti.net[/quote]
The bedtime story of the Haitians people “bouki e malice” that you will tell your kids and grand kids will record that Fanmi Lavalas DID NOT PARTICIPATE in these elections. You are letting your imagination run wild my friend! You are dreaming!! Wake up Jaf!!
Michel wrote: [quote]Nevertheless, History and election records will reveal that the “LAVALAS” had participated in the 2006 presidential election, and Marc Louis Bazin was its official candidate. He obtained
a score of 0.% of the votes.[/quote]
History is History my friend!! You can not distort it to fit your ideology!

Your problem Jaf is, the way I see it and I may be wrong. You may have some kind of antisocial behavior that make you withdraw partially or completely from reality.
Pou ou,
Aristide se Leternel
Fanmi Lavalas se Le Pere.
Paty Lavalas se Le fils.
Movement Lavalas se Le Saint Esprit.

Ki donk Bazin pa fouti al nan eleksyion ak yon LAVALAS san li pa ale ak lot yo? Ki donk pou konklisyon ou, LAVALAS pa patisipe nan eleksyion ki sot fet la?
Mon che Jakafrika kite mwen di ou yon ti kichoy:
Band fanmi, paty, movement exsetera era ki kole ak mo LAVALAS la se pou fe ti moun piti domi, fe yo toudi, fe tet yo tounin kon toupi, pou yo pa konpran sak kap pase nan paty sa.
Se sak fe reta te pran nou nan zafe eleksyon sa.[/b:4efb3c62
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Mon che repran sans ou tande frem!!

Michel

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