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Si kandida yo te patriyòt tout bon vre...

Post by admin » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:39 am

02/13/06 06:28 am
ELECTIONS 2006
RESUMÉ PRESIDENTIEL PAYS (DONNÉES PARTIELLES)

Gade pousantaj sa yo byen (menm si gen kòken ki deja fèt pou desann pousantaj Preval la ak vòt blan yo)

Ki sa yo vle di?
  • PREVAL, RENE - 48,73%
    Sou di mil Ayisyen, prèske la mwatye (5,000) di se Preval yo vle kòm Prezidan.
    [/*:m]
  • MANIGAT, LESLY - 11,84%
    Sou di mil Ayisyen, gen prèske 1,200 ki vote pou Manigat, yon pousantaj ki respektab. Men li klè se pa Manigat pèp la vle kòm Prezidan. Manigat fè yon deklarasyon kote li rekonèt sa, epi li di li klè ke se Preval pèp ayisyen an chwazi. Nan peyi bò isit, yo ta di m'sye sede eleksyon an deja. E nou ta kab di Ochan pou Manigat, nèg demokrat, nèg ki renmen peyi l. Li pa gen enterè pou li wè vye espetak kouto tire, sou non li.

    Men, èske Manigat rete chita sou pozisyon onorab sa
    toujou?
    [/*:m]
  • BAKER, CHARLES - 7,93%
    Si li te klè pèp la pa vle Manigat kòm Prezidan, sa nou kab di menm sou Baker? Pèp la pa vle w menm! Sou di mil Ayisyen, gen mwens pase 800 ki vote pou ou.

    Baker, èske ou gen nen nan figi ou? Si ou patriyòt vre, ou ta retire kò ou.

    Si ou rete nan kous la toujou, sa vle di ou pa gen pyès santiman pou pèp la, se tèt ou sèlman ou wè.
    [/*:m]
  • JEUNE, CHAVANNES - 5,36%
    Sou di mil Ayisyen, se apeprè 500 sèlman ki vote pou ou. Menm Jezikri pa ede ou, oudimwens se yon siy li voye ba ou. Suiv mesaj Providans lan, epi fè jès onorab la tou. Pote kole ak Preval pou peyi a chanje.
    [/*:m]
  • Tout rès kandida yo, se rizib. Yo gen gwo non, men podyab, yo pa te janm nan batay. Mwen kwè yo tout kalifye pou MINAPA Gelin pwopoze a [Mize Nasyonal Politisyen Aryere]. A mwens ke yo tout mete tèt yo ansan
    m e deklare y'ap sipòte chwa pèp la e retire tèt yo nan rizib sa yo te foure tèt yo ladan l lan.

    Ann site an patikilye:
    • MESADIEU, LUC - 3,15%[/*:m]
    • GILLES, SERGE - 2,51%[/*:m]
    • DENIS, PAUL - 2,47%[/*:m]
    • PAUL, EVANS - 2,35% (Konpè Plim??? Konbyen Dominiken ki vote pou ou?)[/*:m]
    • PHILIPPE, GUY - 1,85% (Jan m'sye popilè nan medya blan yo!) [/*:m]
    • DERONCERAY, HUBERT - 0,90% (Pwof, ou nan bagay sa toujou?)[/*:m]
    • BAZIN, MARC - 0,65% (Pa gen bouch pou pale bagay sa!! Leslie Voltaire, sa ou di?)[/*:m]
    • TOUSSAINT, DANY - 0, 39% (Dany, se ou sa???)[/*:m]
    • GOURGUE, GERARD - 0,29% (Ou te mèt kontinye kòm prezidan paralèl. Nan pwen pwoblèm nan sa papa!) [/*:m]
    • BLANCS ak tout lòt po patat yo - Al gade tèt nou nan glas, mesye![/*:m]
    [/*:m]

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Post by Michel Nau_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:23 am

Guy wrote : [quote]BAKER, CHARLES - 7,93%
Si li te klè pèp la pa vle Manigat kòm Prezidan, sa nou kab di menm sou Baker? Pèp la pa vle w menm! Sou di mil Ayisyen, gen mwens pase 800 ki vote pou ou.
Baker, èske ou gen nen nan figi ou? Si ou patriyòt vre, ou ta retire kò ou. Si ou rete nan kous la toujou, sa vle di ou pa gen pyès santiman pou pèp la, se tèt ou sèlman ou wè.[/quote]
Guy my friend, chill out!! Pran sans w, e mouri poul w!!
You are barking at and pissing on the wrong tree!!

Hans Tipenhauer, spoke person for the Baker's camp acknowledges that Rene Preval is way ahead of Mr. Baker. There is no doubt about that!!
Just let the CEP do its job!!
They have to make the final decision!!
Baker shouldn't make things easy for the CEP or Manigat!!
By staying through the end, he is preparing himself for t
he next presidential, 2011. The man is a fighter, and not a quitter!
He had enough guts to present himself as a dependent.
He collected 100,000 votes, 5 times more of what is required for party candidate.That shows a lot!!
The only thing against him is not the people but the color of his skin. Period and it is a shame, an embarrassment, and a disgrace for our country, and it should not have to be that way. :(

Tout res bagay ke w di yo “nen nan figi, patriyot, retire ko ou, pa gen pyes santiman pou pep la etc.. mwen pap fache pou sa paske tout sa se pawol tafia (this is just an expression!!)! :wink:

Se pa Guy S. Antoine kap pale la!

The game is not over until it is over!!

Repran sans w my brother!!

Michel

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Post by Gelin_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:30 am

Granmoun lontan te toujou di li pa bon pou moun eseye konte ze nan vant poul. Apresa, yo di ankò ki li pa twò bon pou mete chat veye lèt.

Chemen an pa fasil pou malere an ayiti, sitou lè bri a kouri ke se letènèl menm ki mete madichon sou yo. Chemen an pa fasil, men grasadye na rive.

gelin

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Post by Gelin_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:40 am

[quote]...<u>The only thing against him</u> is not the people but the color of his skin. Period...[/quote]
False!!!!!

[quote]... and it is a shame, an embarrassment, and a disgrace for our country, and it should not have to be that way. :( [/quote]
There is something shameful indeed, but it's not in the choice of the voters. It's in the reaction against that choice. The shame lies somewhere else....

gelin

T-dodo

Post by T-dodo » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:42 am

[quote]He collected 100,000 votes, 5 times more of what is required for party candidate.That shows a lot!! [/quote]

Michel,

As of last night, with 90% of the votes counted, Baker only got 144,665 votes. It means that he only got 44,665 more votes, plus whatever he is going to obtain from the remaining 10% results yet to be published, than the number of signatures he collected. I was expecting him to do better than that after getting so many signatures in such a short period of time? I am clearly disappointed! Was his campaign that bad?

Jean-Marie

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Post by Ezili Danto » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:49 am

michelnau wrote[quote]The only thing against him is not the people but the color of his skin. Period and it is a shame, an embarrassment, and a disgrace for our country, and it should not have to be that way.[/quote]

Get a life Michelnau. Kite Ayisyen breathe, why don't you.

You want a list of what's against Baker? I could break it down for you so that it's FOREVER broken. But I promise you wouldn't waste my time. Just a heads up: It ain't his color, only his USE of it to undermine Haiti's elected governments, cause the deaths and imprisonment of his political opponents, Haitian development, sovereignty and cozy up to such, like the Washington Consensus, Sweatshop kingpins, drug dealers, gunrunners and of IRI/IFES ilk.

The only reason Jacques Bernard, who has NO LEGAL authority to speak on behalf of the CEP, is running wild right now, causing the suffering of MI
LLIONS of Haiti voters, and trauma of Million of us overseas, right now, is because people like Apaid, Baker and Boulos who have committed treason legally and patriotically with USAID/US Embassy's support and US military, economic and political might behind them, have suffered NO CONSEQUENCES to date. Remember Toto Constant. How he was allowed ASYLUM right here in the US!!!. Yo te mete lan figi nou tout!

Bernard sees how Louis Jodel Chamblain, Gousse, Youri Latortue, Guy Phillip, Stanley Lucas, Toto Constant, Raoul Cedars, Michel Francois, Apaid (a US not even a Haitian citizen) have suffered NO consequences for their repugnant acts against the people of Haiti and think that's how its ALWAYS going to be.

Men regret so pour you TOUT!!!

AND by the way Michelnau, Guy Antoine has a perfect right to express his opinion without your paranoia and or desperation being thrown at us. But I suppose we all should expect more UNITY speeches and guilt trip scenarios, such as your attempt here to "shame" us, as your coup d'etat folks get further UNMASKED in broad CNN and New York Time light!

How dare you [quote]Guy my friend, chill out!! Pran sans w, e mouri poul w!! You are barking at and pissing on the wrong tree!![/quote]

Se ou ki gen pou pran sans w, fre mwen. Pa panse nou tout se kreten kòm Jacques Bernard, Boulos, Baker and Apaid!!!!


And pray tell, did you just cite Hans Tipenhauer! as some sort of credible AUTHORITY that Guy should be what? bowing to!

Geeeeeeezus!

And did you really say that we should all sit around, given what we are looking at, and [quote] Just let the CEP do its job!! [/quote]

Have you, Michelnau, by any chance read "Le CEP en flagrant élit de contradiction" ( http://www.haitiforever.com/forum/viewt ... 3964#13964 ) But you still want Haitians to sit around, given all this apparent FRAUD. That even CNN is reporting and do what YOU say Michelnau and "Just let the CEP do its job!!!"

Do something productive why don't you, Michelnau: Go tell your good friends at HDP, go tell Latortue, Guy Phillipe, Stanley Lucas, Apaid and the Boulos brothers, that the people of Haiti will expose them, their heinous acts against the people of Haiti for decades now, and soon and very soon, the only place they'll be welcomed is in a COURT OF LAW to answer charges of crimes against humanity, federal crimes from interfering in the affairs of a foreign country, tort laws and violation of the civil, human and political right of the people of Haiti.

Lawouze fè banda toutan soley pa leve. Soley la LEVE, michelnau. Li deja LEVE.


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Post by admin » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:49 pm

[quote]BAKER, CHARLES - 7,93%
Si li te klè pèp la pa vle Manigat kòm Prezidan, sa nou kab di menm sou Baker? Pèp la pa vle w menm! Sou di mil Ayisyen, gen mwens pase 800 ki vote pou ou.

Baker, èske ou gen nen nan figi ou? Si ou patriyòt vre, ou ta retire kò ou.

Si ou rete nan kous la toujou, sa vle di ou pa gen pyès santiman pou pèp la, se tèt ou sèlman ou wè.[/quote]

Gen de lè ou voye liy, ou sezi wè ki gwo pwason ki vin tonbe nan kannòt ou. Ann suiv reyaksyon Michel Nau a...

[quote]Guy my friend, chill out!! Pran sans w, e mouri poul w!!
You are barking at and pissing on the wrong tree!! [/quote]
Oh Oh... ou kwè se sa mwen di a ki ofiske ou kon sa???

Mwen pap retire y
on yota nan sa mwen te di a, paske jiskaprezan mwen kwè li jis! Zafè pise a menm, Michel, mwen panse ou te gen plis respè pou tèt ou...

[quote]Hans Tipenhauer, spoke person for the Baker's camp acknowledges that Rene Preval is way ahead of Mr. Baker. There is no doubt about that!! [/quote]
Sa fè, se Hans Tipenhauer ki pou vin di nou ke Ti Rene devan Baker!!!!!! Sa vle di se yon bann analfabèt nou ye, e nou tap tann Mr. Tipenhauer vin li rezilta yo pou nou? Se kounyè a, Michel Nau vin KNOW ke se Preval ki devan?

Monchè, Michel, sou fowòm sa, ou toujou vin ban nou sa State Department panse, ki sa Condi di, ki sa Roger Noriega di, ki sa Timothy Carney di, ki sa HDP di. Ou fè tèt ou pòtpawòl anpil gwo zotobre nan Washington ak nan Pòtoprens. Mwen pa gen pwoblèm ak sa non, paske li bon anpil pou nou konnen sa yo panse. Men, Michel, nou pa sòt nan pwen pou nou ta bezwen Hans Tipenhauer vini di nou ki kandida ki devan. Nou pa bezwe
n Masters Degree nan George Washington University pou nou konnen 49 oswa 68 se yon pi gwo chif pase 08. Si ou pa te KNOW, Michel Nau, kounyè a ou KNOW, paske Hans Tipenhauer pale. Ou te dèyè bann lan, kounyè a ou te mèt pase devan bann nan, men malerezman nou pa kab rete tann ou.

Men ki sans kritik yon moun ta fèt pou l genyen anvan li resevwa diplòm nan men George Washington University ak University of Georgetown? Ban-m inivèsite popilè a pito, mezanmi!

[quote]Just let the CEP do its job!! They have to make the final decision!![/quote]
Kite yo plimen poul la! Poul la pa fèt pou li rele, paske se CEP a ki pou kuit poul la ban nou! Mèsi pou lojik sa, Michel. Lò yo fin koupe tèt poul la, se lò sa m'a panse si fòk mwen te di yon bagay lò san an tap jikle toupatou!

Mwen pap di plis, paske Ezili Dantò deja reponn ou sou pwen sa korèkt
eman.

Se pa ke mwen pa konprann non, Michel.... Lò Repibliken yo tap plimen demokrat yo, ou pa te di anyen nonplis, paske se ekip gwo ponyèt pa w la ki tap plimen pèp meriken an e ki toujou ap plimen pèp meriken an. Pou Ayiti menm, se pi rèd...

[quote]Baker shouldn't make things easy for the CEP or Manigat!! [/quote]
Mwen pa te di ke Baker te gen okenn redevans anvè ni CEP ni Manigat!! Ki kote ou soti ak vye pawòl sa? Men mwen te vle kwè ke li te gen yon redevans anvè pèp ayisyen an. Sitou lò li te ede GNB plimen pèp ayisyen deja. Mwen panse fal misye ta kab plen kounyè a. Ou vle nou bliye, Michel, men nou pa sa bliye.

[quote]By staying through the end, he is preparing himself for the next presidential, 2011. The man is a fighter, and not a quitter!
He had enough guts to present himself as a dependent.[/quote]
You are so right about this, Michel! Men ou kwè misye ap rete tann p
ou 2011, alòs ke misye pa te rete tann pou 2006!! Se misye ki te di ou li te gen kapasite pou l tann?

Michel, sanble ou panse se tout ayisyen ki manje manje bliye!

[quote]He collected 100,000 votes, 5 times more of what is required for party candidate.That shows a lot!![/quote]
Adje! Jean-Marie deja ba ou replik pafèt la deja!!! Mwen pap di plis...

[quote]The only thing against him is not the people but the color of his skin. Period and it is a shame, an embarrassment, and a disgrace for our country, and it should not have to be that way. :( [/quote]
Bon, gade byen tout sa mwen ekri sou Windows on Haiti jis ka dat! Epi di m sa ou twouve sou pwen ou sot fè la! Epi, Michel, zafè "the only thing against him" lan, gade l pou ou, tande. Mwen pa manje manje bliye.

[quote]Tout res bagay ke w di yo “nen nan figi, patr
iyot, retire ko ou, pa gen pyes santiman pou pep la etc.. [/quote]
Ou pa bezwen parafraze pou mwen, souple. Tout moun gen dwa li sa mwen ekri an. Jan ou fè sa la pa fè okenn sans. Se pou sa moun sou fowòm lan bouke ak ou kon sa. Ou gen chans ou tonbe sou yon moun ki gen anpil pasyans!

[quote]mwen pap fache pou sa paske tout sa se pawol tafia (this is just an expression!!)! :wink: [/quote]
Oh... men pou ki sa zafè fache a vin nan tèt ou menm? Ki sa ki te gentan pase la?

Epi, no offense taken...considering the source.

[quote]Se pa Guy S. Antoine kap pale la![/quote]
Se yon sèl Guy S. Antoine ki genyen. Si ou chache fè moul li nan Washington, DC, petèt ou fè li mal. Kraze moul sa, epi rekòmanse ankò. Washington, DC pa janm bon nan travay sa.

[quote]The game is not over until it is over!![/quote]
Don't we know it! Kontinye
fè move kalkil...

[quote]Repran sans w my brother!![/quote]
Mèsi pou konsèy la, men si m te ou...

Charité bien ordonnée commence par soi-même.

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:56 pm

Gelin wrote: [quote]The shame lies somewhere else.... [/quote]
First, I intended to say that Baker started his campaign as an independent. Sorry for the mistake.

I appreciate your honesty and your fairness Gelin. But you stop half way through to tell the true, but that understandable, because we are living in a polarized society and with what is going on right now in Haiti, no body wants to get in trouble.

Jean Marie wrote:[quote] I am clearly disappointed! Was his campaign that bad? [/quote]
I was very please with his result Jean Marie!!
Third place for a first timer in Haitian politics say a lot about the man.
Even tough 32 candidates presented themselves, but if you look at the big picture very closely you will see that the battle is the PEOPLE versus the REST.

Pre
val in first position and Baker third, both in double digits shows clearly that they are in the camp of the people.
The analysis is as fellows:
Preval inherited sort of speak the people and that understandable.
He was there before, and he knows how the game is playing.

Baker has to gain the trust of the people and he did it.
He is originated from the elite class, which unfortunately played against him. But his spirit, his compassion, and above all as an industrial businessman, his bread and butter are with the people.
I believe that he has a bright future in politics.
May be just like Michael Manley in Jamaica. He just needs to be serious about it, and not testing the water.

For Manigat, this stays a mystery for a lot of us.I don't have any idea, no clue, zip how this 70 years old man tiptoed, unnoticed into second place.
This is a dead body that our old generation is pla
ying Frankenstein with. They don't have enough “juice” to revive him. (Juice is a term uses by our new hip pop generation, it means “power”. I learned it from my 18 years old daughter)

The REST of those 0.% opportunist candidates are being rejected strongly by the people!! It's unfortunate that the coalition Lavalas/MIDH is amongst the 0%, and we are sending our sympathy to the members.
Nevertheless, as brothers and sisters,they are welcome to jump into the LESPWA “tap tap” , men yo ba bezwen picho devan band nan. As a people, you are in, as a Party you are out; remember that you are just getting a free ride.

Depi le ke mwen te monte sou fowom nan an 2004, mwen te di ke eleksyon se pot d'antre Democracy e se la pou pep la pase pou lot pep yo pran nou o serye.
Anpil nan nou sou fowom te di ke nou pa pral nan seleksyon, e ke nap tan Aristide tounin.
Kounyen la, Pep la pale!!
Li pa konte nou, ya le pran chans yo e yo montre le mond antye ki yes yo vle!!
r
Nou konnin e rekonnet tre byen ke pep la chwazi Preval ki an tet de lis la. Kidonk, kite mesye CEP yo fe travay yo, nou memm ak tout lot ovsevate yo e le mond antye la ap veye pou yo.
Nou pa bezwen nan ni limin ni chofe dife, ni bay eleksyon an yon atmosfe de kanaval.
Nou tout se Ayisyen, kidonk an nou rele viv Ayiti pito!!

Michel

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Post by Michel Nau_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:56 pm

Men Baker pa nan group 0% men jan ak LAVALAS!!
Li jwen mwyen rive nan twaziem pozisyon sou yon bang lot politisyen profesyonel, ansyen milite, e rebel

Li le pou konpran ke pep la rejte vyolan!se la pe dan Leternel e lespwa ke yo bezwen kounyen la!

LAVALAS ap foure ko li anba vant LESPWA, men LESPWA di klereman ke li pa bezwen Lavalas mechan yo!!

People la gen dwa vini, men neg kap koupe tet e boule kay fre ak se Ayisyen paray nou yo PA LA DAN!!

Kite pep la viv.

Atak pesonel se sa ke nou konnin!
Nou pa jam rete sou sije a.
Se sak fe moun pa pran nou o serye.

Michel

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:52 pm

[quote]...First, I intended to say that Baker started his campaign as an independent...[/quote]
Baker is presented as an independent but everybody knows that he is a G184 member. Maybe your mistake was not a mistake after all..:-)

gelin

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Post by Michel Nau_ » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 pm

Mon che Gelin fok mwen di ou ke gen yon gran posibilite pou ke eleksyon sa pase kom pibel eleksyon ki pa jam fet nan istwa peyi a.
Yo di ke an dan sal de tabilasyon an gen reprezantan tout pati politik ki te patisipe nan eleksyon an.

Gen anpil je kap gade ki jan bagay yo fet nan la kou CEP a. Gen represantan LESPWA an dan, gen represantan Lavalas/MIDH an dan, gen represantan Respe an dan, gen jounalist lokal e internasyonal, gen obsevate human right e tout moun an dan gen kat ditantite yo nan kou yo.

Sel bagay ki pa genyen e yo interdi se cellila fonn, TV ak kamera, e teprikode.

Sak fe te gen konfisyon nanzafe konte vot sa se ke yo konnanse konte vot yo avek depatman de louwest la kote ke Preval kraze tout moun. Men ofi e amezi ke vot nan lot depatman yo ap konte, pousantaj ki te fet le yo te konmanse ap depatman de Louwest la konanse ap dimimuye.

Move bwi e move zin konanse kouri nan
zorey moun e pep la gaye paske yo pa kon pran sak kap fet andan CEP a.
Mwen trouve ke se normal pou ke pep la inkyete e pran lari si yo tande pousantaj vot ki te pibliye premye fwa ki fet nan lakou depatman de Louwest la komanse bese akoz de lot depatman ke yo komanse ap ajoute nan tabilati a. Gen kandita ki fo nan yon depatman konsa tou li kap feb nan lot depatman yo. Vot la se konkou yon "yoyo" kap monte desand.

Bagay ki pi tris la gen anpil moun o ZetaZini e o Kanada ki konnin tre byen kijan eleksyon fet, olye ke yo explike e fe edikasyon pep la sou ki jan bagay konte vot yo mache, yap kouri di pep la gen magouy, CEP a se visye, anfin de mo ki sonnin vreman mal. Moun ki lot bo dlo ki sipoze intelijan, se yo memm ki pi "troublemaker" Se yo memm kap voye pep la al mouri akoz de fanatism ideolojik aveg.

Yo di ke yo la pou ede pep la e se yo memm kap voye pep la al mouri. E le pep la mouri yo di ke se neg bo dwat yo ki la koz de sa.

Dwat la kap responsab de efe a, men se pa yo ki la koz la.

Pou m kontinye, se posib ke gen move bagay zak ki fet a nivo ti provins yo. Men le biltin yo rive nan lakou CEP a, gen trop je kap gade, trop jij ki la pou fe konsta pou ke move zak fet.
Li pa imposib pou ke move zak la fet, men lap tre difisil.

Sel bagay ke mwen kap ajoute avan ke mwen ale se ke nan distans ke Preval ye devan lot mesye yo, yo pap jam, jam jam kap ratrape li. Sa se yon.

Deziem man, apre ke tabilasyon sa fini fet e rezilta yo publye, si ap gen yon deziem tou, anpil kandida ki pedi yo, ak patizan yo pral vote pou Preval "as their second choice".

Tout jan ou virem, e tout jan ou gadel. Preval pase kom presidan peyi a.

Wont la se sou yo ke lap ye si yon move bagay pase!!

Pep la komanse byen, an nou kitel fini byen san vyolans e san dezod!!

Michel

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CEP violated their own laws, check article 184 to 195

Post by Ezili Danto » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:19 pm

Voye roch kache men sa, m pap fè komantè sou li ditou. Se pa travay ki gen karaktè.

Dabò pa bliye Jacques Bernard li pa yon manmb lejitim de KEP a. An nou gade reyalite pèp la ap viv e lwa KEP li menm pase- KEP atik 184 jiska 195:

Michelnau writes:[quote]Men le biltin yo rive nan lakou CEP a, gen trop je kap gade, trop jij ki la pou fe konsta pou ke move zak fet. [/quote]

1. REALITY CHECK: Are these the same "jij" ki lage Chamblain, ki te di Simeus kapab mete Kandida -l pou Prezidan d'ayiti, ki kenbe prizonye politik lan prizon pou dè zan e ki lage neg Raboto yo!!!! Se moun sa yo, Michelnau vle nou fè konfyans!!!!! Li di nou devan jij sa yo (pou fè konsta) move zak pakab fèt!!!

Menti sa yo two GWO
pou peyizan kòm mwen!!!

Mwen repond Michelnau: Jij sa yo pa merite non "jij". Yo deja montre le mond antye yo pa respekte la lwa. Pwen, no vigul!!!

2. Epi, dezyeman, KEP a li menm pa respekte lwa li fè pou tet li.

A quick look at the CEP's own laws, show that the "biltin" that Michelnaw writes about pa te sipoze "rive nan lakou CEP a" ditou, ditou.

Go to: http://www.haitiforever.com/forum/viewt ... 4033#14033
HLLN's preliminary review indicates that these CEP folks have violated their own laws. (See electoral law at: http://www.cep-ht.org/loielectoral.html )

m'ale
Ezili Danto

T-dodo

Post by T-dodo » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:39 am

[quote]Interim govenman prale, map we a ki yes nou pral frape konn ou. Petet ou pral kontinye fe memm veye bagay yo toujou avek nouvo govenman. [/quote]

Michel,

That's a low blow. Even the Miami Herald, perhaps the Sun Sentinel, wrote an article where they say, at best, the interim government record was mixed. To me, the news articles were too generous towards all the blunders and incompetence of this interimn government. They acted like if they were an elected government and failed almost at everything they tried.

In my opinion, their first action should have been to portray themselves as neutral in the political battle. They did not, and everything went downhill from then on. A fratricidal civil war, primarily in Port-au-Prince, has been going on ever since they took over the government. I hold them primarily responsible for it, although they don't deserve all the blame. They were criticized by all, including the international press, the international powers and the group 184 (societe civile) who put them there . To make matters worse, they brought additional problems to the country, further degradation of our institutions, disrespect for the local police force, further erosion of haitians' ability to govern themselves in the image of the international community. Our country has now the worst image in the world than he ever had since our independence. Although we don't know it yet, but perhaps they almost gave a reason to the international powers to put the country under "tutelage." Unfortunately, this chapter is not finished yet.

As far as the elections, I don't give them credit for them. The major decisions, from what was reported by the press, such as limiting the number of polling stations, voting calendar, financing, etc., were those of the international powers.

Although the staffing of the KEP was supposed to have been done by them, the performance of the KEF officials has been dismal. Their current handling of the results appears to be even worse. Everything seems to point to manipulation of the votes results, although we have no official confirmation of that yet.

So, based on such a record, I can't see how one can claim unfairness in the image that independent observers have of this interim government. "If you don't want to be splattered with mud, don't play in the mud." I am not aware of any statistical measure that can show something positive about their administration. They suffered of the same problems that have plagued our country for decades. We all want to be president, or in power, regardless of the circumstances and regardless of how our administration makes the country suffers, as long as our names make it to the history books. So, Michel, they should consider themselves lucky that is all they got: disrepect from the independent observers. Some people believe they deserve more than that, but I don't have all the information, thus I cannot be the judge. If I missed what they did positively for the country, please fell free to inform me.

Jean-Marie

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:03 pm

[quote]Mon che Gelin fok mwen di ou ke gen yon gran posibilite pou ke eleksyon sa pase kom pibel eleksyon ki pa jam fet nan istwa peyi a. Yo di ke an dan sal de tabilasyon an gen reprezantan tout pati politik ki te patisipe nan eleksyon an.[/quote]
Men, yo di tou ke menm pwòp manm cep a paka konnen ki kote direktè a jwenn ak rezilta li vle bay yo.

gelin

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