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Security for Haiti

Post by Michel Nau_ » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:41 am

Security for Haiti
Washington Post editorial
Tuesday, January 24, 2006; A16

FIRST LADY Laura Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both traveled to Liberia to mark the inauguration last week of a democratically elected president, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, who has given that devastated West African country hope for recovery from years of war and anarchy. In a show of support for the United Nations peacekeepers who remain vital to preserving security, two U.S. Navy warships made an appearance off the Liberian coast.

Yet, much closer to home -- 600 miles from Florida -- the Bush administration continues to deny critical security support to another failed state, Haiti.

With U.N. help, Haiti is trying to hold its own democratic election to replace the interim government that has been in power for nearly two years. But the vote, scheduled for Fe
b. 7, already has been postponed four times because of organizational problems and Haiti's mounting anarchy; there's no guarantee it will go forward even now.

Much of the countryside and capital continues to be controlled by armed gangs -- some loyal to exiled former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide, some to his opponents in a deeply polarized society, and some to drug traffickers and other criminals. The drug traffic, in which Haiti acts as a transshipment point for cocaine on its way from South America to the United States, goes virtually unchecked. Kidnappings occur at the rate of 10 per day.

The Brazilian-led U.N. force of 7,200, made up of troops from Latin America as well as such unlikely friends of Haiti as Jordan and Sri Lanka, has never seriously attempted to restore order or disarm the gunmen. Earlier this month its commander committed suicide. It is expected to provide security for the elections but lacks the manpower, professionalism and logistical support to do so.

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3692cba]The danger of violence is great: Among the more than 30 candidates for president are two alleged drug traffickers; an insurgent leader; and a former president, Rene Preval, who is bitterly opposed by the same coalition that forced Mr. Aristide from office.

The United States has been the guarantor of Haiti's security for nearly a century, repeatedly dispatching troops to restore order. Two years ago a Marine force entered the country to escort Mr. Aristide into exile. Yet, though it has endorsed and partially funded the election process, the Bush administration refuses to make even the smallest contribution to security.

Last year Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld rejected a proposal to provide a small rapid-reaction force to back up the disarmament of the gangs. Now the Pentagon has rejected a U.N. petition for a temporary supply of helicopters to assist in the elections. Though Ms. Rice and other senior officia
ls have visited Haiti to sing the praises of democracy, the administration is unwilling to commit even five helicopters to such tasks as securing the transport of ballot boxes.

It's true that U.S. military forces are spread thin because of the demands of Iraq and Afghanistan. But the administration's refusal to spare even a handful of helicopters or a few hundred Marines for Haiti makes little sense when instability there is sure to raise the flow of refugees and drugs toward Florida.

Haiti has a slim chance to follow Liberia in establishing a legitimate government that can begin to restore order with the help of foreign troops and donors.

But if the United States isn't willing to provide military backup in the Caribbean as well as in West Africa, its success is unlikely.

This is this week Washington Post Editorial about the situation in Haiti. Feel free to comment.

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:30 pm

Dapre deniye infomasiyon sou zafe visit Laura, madam Bush e manzel Condoleezza Rice pandan inogirasiyon madam prezidan Liberia, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf ki se premiye fam prezidan nan kontinan Afriken.
Yo te la pou bay sipo yo a yon fam paray yo ki vini okipe yon plas inpotan nan la vi peyi li.
Eske yap fe memm bagay la pou Ayiti tou?
Mwen pa kwe ke moun sa yo ap la, min govenman Bush la ap voye 2 e 3 moun vin'n gade. Petet Koffi Anan kap la e lot gwo zotobwe OEA e LONU.

Sou zafe elikopte ke govenman Amerikin pavle bay pandan period eleksiyon an pou pote ballot ale vini nan diferan zon'n nan peyi a.
Depatman Defans Ameriken di ke yo pap mele nan zafe konsa.
Sa pa gen anyen pou we ak troup nan Iraq ou Afganistán.
Si yo fe li yo kap we yon konfli dintere e yo pavle moun vin'n di ke elikopte sa yo te gen ballot
tou pare ladan yo avek non kandida la dan'n.
They don't want to be the “waiter” that will bring the food to the tables If something wrong happens to the people, they could be the first to hold responsible, not the cooks in the kitchen.
Pou evite tout pawol anpil, yo di non. Yo la ap gade…….e de tre pre SVP
Pou zafe drug kap soti nan peyi d'Ayiti e moun kap sove kite peyi a vinn nan Florida pou chache la vi miyo.
Yo di ke ti kraponnaj konsa pafe yo pe.
Bring them on!!
Yap sezi tout drug e yap refoule tout Ayisiyen bak lakay yo.

DPean

Post by DPean » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:46 am

[quote]They don't want to be the “waiter” that will bring the food to the tables If something wrong happens to the people, they could be the first to hold responsible, not the cooks in the kitchen.
Pou evite tout pawol anpil, yo di non. Yo la ap gade…….e de tre pre SVP
Pou zafe drug kap soti nan peyi d'Ayiti e moun kap sove kite peyi a vinn nan Florida pou chache la vi miyo. [/quote]
The buck stops here. We, Haitians are ultimately responsible for what happens to our country. The Americans will not take any blame. Really, I don't think they care much. Some people use to think that what happened and is happening in many African countries could never happen in Haiti because of its proximity to the United States. Well, it is happening and the Americans are letting it happen. They wiil send anybody trying to leave back to their hellhole. The Americans could do a lot to help Haiti if they wanted to. The desire is si
mply not there. Too bad, too many of us have not figured that out yet. Too many of us still think that Haiti will be flooded with help once the election is over. There might be disappointments.

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:45 pm

Dpean wrote:[quote]The Americans could do a lot to help Haiti if they wanted to. The desire is simply not there.[/quote]
Dpean, I think it's the other way around; Haiti does not show any desire to receive help from any country.

We Haitians have a pervasive perception that when the blan (regardless the skin color, black or white or any foreigner who goes to Haiti is a blan) comes to help, he also comes to exploit us.
I have heard a bunch of old Haitian geezers who are still living in fairytale and never made an effort to bring their life to a higher level.
The same old routine jwe bolette, jwe jwet kat ak jwet zo avek yon bwa nan nin ou biyen yon viye recho dife sou tet yo, e pale de fam a dwat e a goch, bwe tafia, batay kok gagen, danse misik tout jounin e razè fam panyol sou rout kafou.

They don't know better!!
What a pity!

Another pastime that we have i
s to talk about hiding treasures in Haiti the magic of voodoo etc.
We love to leave in the past and talk about the glory of our heroes of independence.
We should Leave Dessalines, Petion, Boukman and all of your heroes alone for a while, and focus on the future!!

They have done their job to give us our independence.
For 200 years later, what have we done to make ours life better?
Where are ours Haitian heroes of today?
It's time for a change!!

Leonel JB

Post by Leonel JB » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:44 am

Here we go again Michel.
I agree with the last couple paragraph. But, You are doing the same thing like before, Blaming all Haitians and Praising the BLAN...
It is Your rights! And I understand why someone can have such Self-Hatred.
It is not easy to reach You through this awful brainwashed education which You don't feel necessary to get rid of.
Pity, Yes. I have Pity on You, my Friend.
It seems like You really believe that the Blan was helping Us. It is Us who are so Bad.
These kind of outrageous statements, I've seen them sometimes by peeking on Yahoo where a lot of Ignorant members of their forum think that the Blan are helping. But, we are so stupid to do anything with that help.
Now, If I want to be a little Scientific. Let me tell You. The content of one's Melanin doesn't make one Stupid. For, that what makes the Races different!
We are a product of our Environment. We are a Container that absorbs and pours o
ut what was in US.
Sur ce, let me tell YOU. The Blan is not God! This how they help the Third World. Let say, they are giving You 100 MIllion Dollars for a Project, building roads for Instance. About 50 Mil stays for the Experts whom they provide to You. They are ExPats who are paid very well... The rest of the money is not even enough to build 5 buildings. Besides, they make sure that they have some corrupt Govts which will serv their purposes.
Yes, it is a fact that, the Blan does not give without a lot in return. Besides Israel which benefits a lot from Billions given every year. The Western Europeans are beneficiaries in the past of theSpecial gifts to rebuild.
Do not give me half a fish Daily. Show me how to FISH!
Se konsa yo te ede peyi ewOp yo.
I am not sure where you are coming from? Which Era are you from? Because, jwe kat ak al nan gagE fE vodou and all is not true, my Friend. Read your post, and try to understand it. It is Michel at his best.
A Lyric from Bob Marley,
[b:f79af
14cea] (Chase those Crazy baldheads out of Town)
Cause, I and I built the Cabin
I and I plant the Corn
Didn't my People before Me, Slave for this Country
Now, You look me with this scorn
And eat up all my corn
Hate is Your reward for our Love
You're talking about your God above
...Built Your Penitenciaries
We built youschools
Brainwashed education, to make Us your FOOLS...

It is very tough to heal someone with a low-self-esteem.
Blan ap toujou bondie, paske Blan se Blan.
We will have a long way to go.
L'union fait la Force,
leonel

DPean

Post by DPean » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:38 am

[quote]We Haitians have a pervasive perception that when the blan (regardless the skin color, black or white or any foreigner who goes to Haiti is a blan) comes to help, he also comes to exploit us.
I have heard a bunch of old Haitian geezers who are still living in fairytale and never made an effort to bring their life to a higher level. [/quote]
The fact is, if we look at it objectively, we probably would have been better off if we were left alone. I give an example: Many years ago, my grandfather was working for an American company in, I think, the northwest of Haiti. I think it was a 'sisal' company. I am told that the lands in that area used to be good, fertile lands. Those lands were given to that company for it to use. In the process, those lands were destroyed and could not produce anything else. My grandfather and the other Haitians who worked for that company made a relatively good salary (co
mparatively) while they were there. But eventually, that company closed down and left Haiti. The Haitian employees, like my grandfather, had no pension to rely on for the many years they had given to that company. The worse part is those lands cannot grow anything. I have always heard of hunger in that part of Haiti.

The governments of Haiti in those times (I think it was the Magloire time but I may be wrong), because of their myopia or because of their greed and their stupidity, mortgaged the future of the country for a quick fix, a short time solution. The Haitians of today will pay the price for the stupidity of their forefathers.

The fact is that the Haitians were not alone in the destruction of their country, but they bear the ultimate reponsibility. The foreigners may come to help, but in the end the highest priority for them is their bottom line, not ours. They will not solve our problems, but they will help us create new ones.

Haiti is very poor, backward country in the
bakyard of a very rich, technologically advanced country. The Americans have the resources and the know-how to help if they wanted. If we had oil, it would be different. Now, their main goal is to keep our poor Haitians from their shores, not solve our problems or provide us with security. If they cared, they would not be sending so many deportees back to Haiti, knowing the problems Haiti is facing today.

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Post by admin » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:53 am

Dpean, you related, in anecdotal fashion, a key piece of Haiti's economic development history, or should I say "misdevelopment". The story of sisal in the northwest evokes as well the story of rubber (kawoutchou) e*port during World War II prior to the time when the production of cheap synthetic rubber made rubber farming in Haiti suddenly e*pandable. That in turn will evoke the story of bau*ite mining, and the cutting of trees for American and French timber companies (for which the small Haitian farmers are ALWAYS blamed these days, and never the foreigners!). That will in turn recall the destruction of the Creole pig, the "poul peyi", and so on in favor of imported products.

When will the real story of Haiti's economic misdevelopment be written, so we can clearly distinguish where Haitians have gone wrong, what bad habits must be corrected, etc... instead of automatically ass
igning all blame to those stupid Haitians (are we missing a chromosome, and if we do, which one e*actly?)

So, thank you, Dpean, for telling it like it is, and recalling the disastrous consequences of sisal development in History. I wish someone would write e*tensively about those misadventures that have completely destroyed the agricultural economy of Haiti.



Note: there is one letter on my keyboard that has decided to go on vacation, I don't know for how many days (it left without notice). I hired temporary help in the form of " * ". Be kind and understanding to the new staff, until I can locate the trusty old one. She's probably drinking piña coladas in Jamaica, in the company of tall, dark, well-formed letters.

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:43 am

[quote]...I have heard a bunch of old Haitian geezers who are still living in fairytale and never made an effort to bring their life to a higher level.

The same old routine jwe bolette, jwe jwet kat ak jwet zo avek yon bwa nan nin ou biyen yon viye recho dife sou tet yo, e pale de fam a dwat e a goch, bwe tafia, batay kok gagen, danse misik tout jounin e razè fam panyol sou rout kafou.

They don't know better!! What a pity! [/quote]

This has absolutely nothing to do with Haiti's misery. Nothing!

gelin

Michel Nau_

Post by Michel Nau_ » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:49 pm

Leonel wrote:[quote]Now, If I want to be a little Scientific. Let me tell You. The content of one's Melanin doesn't make one Stupid.[/quote] Leonel! I knew you will come back with a vengeance with that black and white thing and to paint me as a racist, but I am not.

I can not be a racist even if I want to!!.
My mother is black and my uncle is charcoal. I use charcoal to describe his color because he was darker than the rest of us and we used to joke that we can only see him in the dark when he smiles.

My folks were paysans, arpenters, gran proprietor terrier, latifundist, feudalist absentees in the section of Latiboliere, Jeremie.

Please Leonel! Give me a break!!. If you go back to my post you will see that I mentioned that in our culture, we more likely treat foreigners as “blan” regardless of skin color.

Leonel wrote: [quote]jwe kat ak al nan gagE fE vodou and all is not true.[/quote] Leonel you need to wake up! All those things that I said are outrageous.
I said it as a wake up call for all of us including myself.
Everyone of us has a friend, a brother, a classmate, an uncle who did not make it to the foreign shores to expand their potential and intelligence.

They have been trap in that culture of poverty, mardigras and Bondiye Bon.

You should be grateful to be fortunate enough to make it in foreign soil.

Otherwise, you could have been in Haiti now apjwe bolette, jwe jwet kat ak jwet zo avek yon bwa nan nin ou biyen yon viye recho dife sou tet yo, e pale de fam a dwat e a goch, bwe tafia, batay kok gagen, danse misik tout jounin e razè fam pannyol sou rout kafou.

Gelin wrote: [quote]This has absolutely nothing to do with Haiti's misery. Nothing![/quote]
Gelin, I see it as a waste of hiding potential and manpower.
It is time to brea
k this vicious cycle. It is time to give an opportunity to those people to excel!!

DPean wrote: [quote]The fact is, if we look at it objectively, we probably would have been better off if we were left alone.[/quote]
DPean, my friend! Come on! Name one country that can sufficiently stand alone in this 21st century?? I don't see any objectivity in this statement. This is a call for collective suicide of a country.

As Guy Antoine well outlined it. We need to move and change with time. Things come and go.

Sisal/Pitt is replaced with plastic, therefore creating a drop in demand for sisal/pitt.

Coffee is being modified into caffeine free or dicaff.

Sugar is replaced with sugar free and other laboratory made products.

Cotton is replaced with cheap polyester. Cable/copper/lead is replaced with fiber optic; plugged phone with cordless, now cellular.

And we can go on and on and on.

So what is
left for us to produce??

We need to promote respect for one another and UNION with one another regardless of social classes.

I am not talking about reconciliation which is completely different and almost impossible in our actual context.

We don't have to like one another, but we could unite for the sake of our country.

Our ancestors, Petion, Boyer, Rigaud, Dessalines and others I am sure that they did not like each other and were representing their social class, but they united for a common goal, the independence of our country.

We need leaders who have vision, and could negotiate with the blan on behalf of the Haitian people, and move the country forward as a whole and not at the benefit of one social class.

We can do it!!

Michel

Leonel JB

Post by Leonel JB » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:16 pm

Michel, I wouldn't dare calling you a Racist, my Friend...
Based on your posts, I can say that you are a lot more brainwashed than myself, but not Racist.
You can go back also on your recent Post. Why did you mention Madigra
Is it the cause of our poverty? Educate me, Brother!
Also jwe bOlEtt and all are just hobbies. It is cultural. They have them in Spain... What do you think that is the catalyst to our Soudevlopman?
YOur statements are so... (I can not find a smoother word, for,I didn't want to offend you).
I don't know if I should be grateful to make it in a Foreign soil???
I should be grateful that I am still alive!
[quote]You should be grateful to be fortunate enough to make it in foreign soil.

Otherwise, you could have been in Haiti now apjwe bolette, jwe jwet kat ak jwet zo avek yon bwa nan nin ou biyen yon viye recho dife sou tet yo,
e pale de fam a dwat e a goch, bwe tafia, batay kok gagen, danse misik tout jounin e razè fam pannyol sou rout kafou. [/quote]
YOu assume that is what is going on in Haiti. Nothing else to do!
I am trying to read this over and ask anyone else to read this and think of the writer's ethnicity???
You are a big Joke!
If You were the only one representing Haitians in the DC area. Boy, nou tap antrave...
Lets move on, cause it's not worth it.
Good luck!
leonel

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:22 pm

[quote]Gelin wrote: [quote]This has absolutely nothing to do with Haiti's misery. Nothing![/quote]
Gelin, I see it as a waste of hiding potential and manpower.
It is time to break this vicious cycle. It is time to give an opportunity to those people to excel!![/quote]
To my knowledge they did not choose to be unemployed. I understand your point that potential is being wasted, but it's against their will. The opportunity to excell you mentioned is a good idea, but it's just that: a good idea. Don't blame the unemployed for 'wasting' their time when there is no alternative in sight. A little fairness wouldn't hurt you...

gelin

Leonel JB

Post by Leonel JB » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:59 am

Gelin, let me try to show Michel the difference between Haiti and the Western World.

Haiti has Borlette, the West has LOtto, Lottery and other type of gambling.

Haiti has GagE, the West has Boxing and other senseless fights which by the way would be more acceptable to Michel.

Haiti has Gossips on Women, the West does not???

Haiti has bwE tafia, the West only has Wine and Champagne (not qualified as alcohol by Michel standards), I forgot also Vodka, whiskey etc (those are Haitian products?).

Haiti has Raze fanm panyol sou rout kafou, the West does not have prostitution (42nd and other places are just Myths).

Haiti has Danse mizik tout jounen, the WEst has Disco and different Nightclubs. But yet, it is not as bad as Haiti...

By saying the West, I meant all the Developed Countries in th
e World.

The reasons which I think that I should mention the differences if there exist any. I heard some outrageous statements like that from some Caucasians in Europe or the USA who never got in touch with any one else outside of their own Country.

This is done by Ignorance. Trying to show how Evil the Third World Countries are and They are not.

By the way, I mentioned Self-Hatred, not Racist.

In term of Waking up, I do that everyday. But, I wouldn't wanna be Brain Dead. I learn everyday from different People in different Countries and Cultures.

Travel more my Friend. Explore the World, not the US only. You would learn a lot. Listen, Think, then, Write!

You can do it. Cause I count on You,

L'union fait la Force,
leonel

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