Get the message? Ad speaks in Creole

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Anacaona_

Post by Anacaona_ » Sun May 01, 2005 8:47 am

Marilyn,
Maybe their target was other creole speakers in Florida, but not Haitian because that's not Haitian Creole.

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Post by admin » Sun May 01, 2005 9:52 am

Well, it sounds like a case of KSL! (Kreyol as a Second Language - see this forum's Humor section).

A good Haitian writer would have written: "Pa janm sekwe yon ti bebe" and avoided ALL FOUR MISGUIDED diacritical marks ("accents aigus") in that little sentence.

However, if you close your eyes and repeat the sentence out loud (exactly the way that it is written), you will definitely hear a well-meaning "blan" dishing the advice, perhaps speaking HC as a third language via the acquisition of a second. It's kind of charming, in a paternalistic way. That is, charming but not funny, because of the after-taste which results in debasing 25 years of serious efforts to promote a standard orthography for Haitian, based on the officially adopted rules of the national language.

But who knows? Though Marilyn suggested that the promoters could have submitted the writing to Féquière Vilsaint, Fedo Boyer
, or Roger Savain (all three, based in Florida), it's entirely possible that they may have gone to even higher authorities, residing in Boca Raton.

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Post by Michelange_Hyppolite » Mon May 02, 2005 4:56 pm

Se youn kesyon prensip. Youn gwoup, youn pèp, youn kominote, genyen sa li merite. Si kòm Ayisyen, nou genyen respè pou lanng nou an, menm jan lòt pèp yo genyen respè pou lanng pa yo, depi youn enfòmasyon soti youn fason depaman ak prensip gramè osnon vokabilè kreyòl la, se tout mounn ki pou monte sou pwent plim yo epi denonse li. Kritike jounal la, mete jounal la devan responsablite li genyen ak respè li dwe genyen pou lektè li yo nan fason li ap ekri kreyòl la.
Ekri kreyòl se trè byen, men ekri youn kreyòl pachiman se manke respè pou noumenm ki pale kreyòl, espesyalman Ayisyen ki ap viv nan Miyami yo.

Konsa, se responsablite: Educa Vision, Misye Savain, Sosyete koukouy Miyami, ak chak grenn Ayisyen ki respekte tèt li, pou yo leve chalbari dèyè jounal la. Si tout mounn rete ak bouch yo plen dlo ,oubyen ankò ak plim yo angoudi, paske yo pa konnen ki kalite reyaksyon jounal la ka genyen kont yo, nou fenk kare wè jounal yo ban nou sa yo kwè nou me
rite.

Si tout mounn konsekan yo pale epi jounal la meprize yo, lè sa a yo dwe fè lòt demach yo kwè ki pi efikas pou korije sitiyasyon an. Pa gen okenn chanjman konsekan ki kab rive nan kèlkeswa domèn lan, si se pa goumen nou goumen pou li.

Michel-Ange Hyppolite( Kaptenn Koukourouj)
Manm Sosyete Koukouy Kanada

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