DR:Human Rights Violation, Haitians Deportation.“I Feel Good! Said Preval

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Michel Nau
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DR:Human Rights Violation, Haitians Deportation.“I Feel Good! Said Preval

Post by Michel Nau » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Me siento bien! expreso Preval!
I feel good!! This is not the King of Soul music, James Brown. This was the president of Haiti Rene Garcia Preval during his second trip to the Dominican Republic. El Listing Diaro.com, a Dominican Republic internet news reported that at the Punta Cana airport, President of Haiti, Renè Preval declared to the media that “Despite mass Haitians deportation without warning, and documented human rights violation by Fernandez's government, he feel good about the 2 countries relation”.

This statement from the President of Haiti infuriated a lot of human rights organizations, and Haitians who have been working from day one for the welfare of the Haitians braceros.

Sonia Pierre, Executive Director of Haitian American Women Movement (MUDHA) who received the 2006 Robert Kennedy Human Right prize expressed her deception and frustration by saying:
[quote] “Me siento profundamente decepcionada y frustrada por estas inadecuadas declaraciones del presidente Preval, que no corresponden con la realidad que vivimos los haitianos y dominicanos de ascendencia haitiana en la República Dominicana” [/quote]
Guy Antoine, Administrator and Manager of Ann Pale forum expressed his opinion by saying: [quote]Si Preval ta di sa vrèman, sa ta yon betiz de premyè klas, paske non sèlman li pa koresponn a reyalite sa kap pase nan dominikani nan dènye ane yo kote vyolans kont ayisyen ogmante seryezman, men tou (e se sa ki pi grav la) gouvènman ayisyen an ta demontre li rantre pi fon nan enkonpetans ak iresponsabilite vizavi devwa li pou li pwoteje enterè tout ayisyen.[/quote]
Jaf activis, artist ekrivin di: [quote]Monchè koze sa a ap vale teren sereyzman e, jiskaprezan, mwen poko li anyen ki soti nan biwo Prezidans lan ki pou ta oswa klarifye oswa presize sa li te vle di a. Kidonk, sanble se vre prezidan an voye flè nan kad vwayaj sa a l ale fè lòt bò lantouraj la. E, nan menm moman an, Dominiken ap pimpe san papye retounen ba li nan move kondisyon. Ki moun ki konseye misye sou zafè Dominikani? Èske se vre, jiskaprezan po ko janm gen yon anbasadè tou nèf ki nonmen?[/quote]
Frantz di : [quote]Pafwa, n'ap mande poukisa Ayiti pa gen chans konsa? Laprezidans dwe nou yon esplikasyon sou deklarasyon ke jounal Dominiken di ke prezidan Ayisyen di. Kidonk n'ap tann. Alatraka papa![/quote] Anpil oganizasyon kap travay pou dwa de lomm di ke :[quote]Si deklarasyon sa soti nan prop bouch presidan peyi d'Ayiti se pral “open season” la chas plon gaye nan deye pep ayisyen nan dominicani e gouvenman Preval la ap pesonelman responsab pou zak sa yo.[/quote]
Other Haitian “braceros” said that Preval did not come here to visit us.
He doesn't care about our condition here.
They kill us, they burn us, and they steal everything that we have.
There is no justice for us here.
What we are asking is for our government to take their responsibility more seriously”.

Preval and his entourage were having a good time with prominent Dominican businessmen such as Frank Rainieri president of the Punta Cana Group, super star of haute couture Oscar De La Renta, and multimillionaire Carlos Morales Troncoso who organized a private diner.

Who organized Preval Protocol during his visit to the Dominican Republic?
Why the protocol did not schedule a meeting for Preval with the human rights groups?

To give you a hint on how to answer these questions, one needs to go back to the Duvalier's era when the Haitian braceros were being sold by the millions to the Dominican sugar industry. Just like used cars sale during auction, there were sold to different plantation owners, sometimes leased to different private groups.

Just like GW Bush who called Ronald Reagan's old friends like Eliot Abrams and NegroPonte, who supposedly did a good job during the Contra era to help him out, Preval is more likely being coached by some hardcores from de Duvalier's era on how to handle Haitian- Dominican politics at the expense of the Haitian braceros.

Michel

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Post by Guysanto » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:54 pm

[quote]Renè Preval declared to the media that “Despite mass Haitians deportation without warning, and documented human rights violation by Fernandez's government, he feel good about the 2 countries relation”. [/quote]
Michel, Rene Preval said that???

Is it the case perhaps that you do not understand the use of a DIRECT QUOTE in journalism or literature? Did you make up that quote or did you actually read it somewhere and simply neglected to cite the source???

Michel, it is possible to criticize the presumed content of Preval's declaration (and several of us did just that) without putting words in the Preval's mouth.

That would be repeating the offense of the Dominican Press against the President of Haiti (according to the latest news stories about the matter). It's BAD enough for some Dominicans to lie about what Preval might have said, but it would be absolutely TERRIBLE for any of us TO MAKE UP A QUOTE and attribute it directly to Preval ourselves, repeating patterns of deception that all men of good faith should denounce.

[quote] Anpil oganizasyon kap travay pou dwa de lomm di ke :

[quote]Si deklarasyon sa soti nan prop bouch presidan peyi d'Ayiti se pral “open season” la chas plon gaye nan deye pep ayisyen nan dominicani e gouvenman Preval la ap pesonelman responsab pou zak sa yo.[/quote][/quote]

"Anpil oganizasyon" di sa, Michel??? Which organizations said that and what is your source for this information?

I get a feeling that you have a serious problem with QUOTING , Michel!
Get some help with this, please, before you commit a gaffe that seriously hurts your credibility. I am not saying that to attack you in any way. Take it as friendly advice. We all need that from time to time.

[quote]Just like GW Bush who called Ronald Reagan's old friends like Eliot Abrams and NegroPonte, who supposedly did a good job during the Contra era to help him out, Preval is more likely being coached by some hardcores from de Duvalier's era on how to handle Haitian- Dominican politics at the expense of the Haitian braceros.[/quote]
I see you have a problem with analogies too...

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Post by Serge » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:31 am

Guy,

I, like you, am at a lost as to where Michel wants to go. One wonders indeed if he does it on purpose or what..Thee is nothing simpler than to quote and indicate where the quote comes from. But for Michel, that seems to be the most difficult thing to do.....And that can be dangerous in the age of Internet when disinformation can spread like wild fire.

So Michel, we are waiting for an indication of your sources the quotes you cited.

Serge

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Démenti du Président Préval

Post by Serge » Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:50 pm

Suite au tollé soulevé par des déclarations qui auraient été attribués au Président Préval au sujet du traitement des Haitiens en République dominicaine, voici un article sur ce sujet publié par Radio Kiskeya en date du 17 mars 2007, dans lequel Préval rejette officiellement les propos qui lui ont été attribués. Lisez plus bas:

Haiti-Dominicaine/Immigration

Préval dément avoir ignoré les violations des droits des haitiens en territoire dominicain
L'article du journal dominicain Listìn Diario serait une manoeuvre de diversion, selon le Président haitien

samedi 17 mars 2007,

Radio Kiskeya



Le Président haitien René Préval a formellement démenti vendredi à Santo Domingo un article du quotidien dominicain Listìn Diario selon lequel il aurait déclaré n'être pas informé des graves violations des droits humains dont sont victimes les immigrants haitiens en République Dominicaine.

"J'ai lu avec surprise et indignation que j'aurais tenu de tels propos alors que depuis mon arrivée ici (en République Dominicaine), je n'ai jamais eu à me prononcer sur la situation des migrants haitiens", a confié le chef de l'Etat à des journalistes haitiens en marge du sommet régional sur le narcotrafic qui s'est tenu vendredi dans la capitale dominicaine.

Préval a indiqué que les déclarations qui lui ont été attribuées sont le "produit de l'imagination" de l'auteur de l'article. Il l'a mis au défi de prouver le contraire. Selon le dirigeant haitien, il s'agirait d'une manœuvre de diversion qui visait à atténuer l'ampleur du sommet anti-drogue.

Le Président a souligné avoir abordé "le thème sensible de l'immigration" avec son homologue dominicain Leonel Fernàndez sans en faire état dans la presse. Il en a profité pour rappeler que sa visite de l'autre côté de la frontière était exclusivement consacrée à la lutte contre le trafic de drogue.

Dans son édition de jeudi, le journal Listìn Diario avait, citations à l'appui, révélé que le Président René Préval aurait affirmé, lors d'un dîner chez le chancelier dominicain, Carlos Morales Troncoso, dans la province de La Romana (est), qu'il n'était pas au courant des mauvais traitements infligés aux haitiens et aurait même minimisé les dénonciations de ces violations.

Des défenseurs des droits humains particulièrement intéressés à la cause des immigrants haitiens en République Dominicaine avaient condamné avec véhémence les déclarations prêtées au chef de l'Etat et exigé des explications. spp/RK

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Post by jafrikayiti » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:17 pm

Bon zouti !

Mwen apresye lefèt ke Prezidan Préval pa rete tann li retounen Ayiti anvan li bay klarifikasyon an. Mwen te tande entèvansyon Edwin Paraison nan radio solidarite tou kote misye te anonse Prezidan an te gen lentansyon fè klarafikasyon sa a rapido presto. Chose dite, chose faite ! Préval klete dyol listin diaro.

5 sou 5 !

Jaf

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