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At least 20 Hatians killed by sharks

Post by Guysanto » Sat May 05, 2007 12:36 pm

Saturday, May 05, 2007

At least 20 Hatians killed by sharks
VIVIAN TYSON AND - The Associated Press

Andrew O. Selsky

SOUTH DOCK, Turks and Caicos Islands -- Every year, Haitians by the hundreds set off in rickety boats hoping to escape poverty by sneaking into the U.S. The perils became gruesomely apparent Friday when a crowded boat capsized, flinging migrants into shark-infested waters.

Hours after the sailing vessel overturned in moonlit waters a half-mile from shore, rescuers had recovered more than a dozen bodies -- some with savage bite wounds -- and were searching for about 60 missing people.

The Turks and Caicos government said the boat was carrying some 160 people and that 78 survivors -- 69 males and 9 females -- were rescued. Police have recovered 16 bodies, those of 13 females and three males, the government said.

Some survivors were spotted by a U.S. Coast Guard helicopter clinging to the hull of their overturned vessel, said Petty Officer Third Class Barry Bena. The chopper guided in a boat to get them. A Coast Guard cutter and a C-130 plane also were dispatched to join the search.

The Coast Guard said its helicopter reported spotting about 20 corpses. An AP reporter saw about a dozen bodies, some with missing feet and limbs.

Speaking through an interpreter, one of the survivors said the migrants were on a two-day journey from the northern Haitian town of Cap-Haitien to the Turks and Caicos when the overloaded boat was rocked by choppy waters off the coast.

Some passengers panicked as lightning crackled overhead and caused the vessel to capsize, said Wilke Pierre, 52.

"I lost one of my two daughters that made the trip with me. I wanted to save her but I could not because everyone was excited and was screaming," Pierre told The Associated Press.

It could become the worst disaster in years to hit Haitian migrants, who jam into boats to attempt the treacherous journey. The boat that overturned Friday was only about 25 feet long.

"When it's done that way it takes almost nothing for a disaster to occur," Bena said in a telephone interview from Miami. "A strong wind or a sea swell or people moving around can capsize a boat in an instant."

The Coast Guard said the migrant vessel capsized while being towed by a Turks and Caicos police boat at 4:30 a.m., but local authorities said the police boat arrived on the scene only after the accident.

Minister of Home Affairs Galmo Williams said he was awaiting a full report from the Turks and Caicos police.

Health Minister Lillian Boyce, meanwhile, called on human trafficking rings to stop imperiling lives. "I am asking all of you in the Turks and Caicos who are part of this illegal activity to please stop. Put an end to it," Boyce said.

Survivors were taken to a detention center on Providenciales, the island that is the urban center of the Turks and Caicos and features an 18-hole golf course, resort hotels, bars and restaurants, and will be sent back to Haiti. The submerged boat was later towed to shore.

There is a sizable community of illegal Haitian immigrants on Providenciales, and it was not immediately clear if those aboard the boat were headed here or to the United States -- the more common destination.

The number of Haitians intercepted by the Coast Guard has increased recently, despite the restoration of democracy to Haiti last year with the election of President Rene Preval. Preval replaced an interim government that took over after a bloody rebellion overthrew President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004.

Preval, who is hugely popular among Haiti's poor, has used the help of U.N. peacekeepers to crack down on gangs that were behind a kidnapping epidemic in the capital and is seeking foreign investment to help boost the economy. But the numbers of Haitians trying to reach the U.S. show that many people can't wait while he tries to transform the Western Hemisphere's poorest nation.

This year, the Coast Guard has intercepted 909 Haitians, compared to 769 during all of 2006 and 1,828 in 2005. During the turbulent year of the 2004 rebellion, 3,078 were caught.

Jean-Robert Lafortune, chairman of the Haitian-American Grassroots Coalition in Florida, said Haiti's economic struggles and its political instability are too much for many people.

He said Friday's tragedy underscored "one of the greatest fears that we always have in the community -- knowing that many of those refugees do not make it in their attempt to make the Florida shore."

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AP writers Vivian Tyson reported from South Dock, Turks and Caicos Islands, and Andrew Selsky from San Juan, Puerto Rico. AP writer Matt Sedensky in Miami contributed to this report.

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Post by Guysanto » Sat May 05, 2007 3:28 pm

These tragedies at sea are becoming more frequent.

It appears to parallel a worsening of the ever precarious economic conditions in Haiti. What is your understanding of the current situation?

Should Haitians be granted Temporary Protected Status (TPS) due to the ecological, environmental, and economic disasters back home?

If yes, what steps should be taken to apply maximum pressure on U.S. Legislators?

If no, what do you propose to alleviate the misery of those who take these perilous journeys to greener acres, where they likely get arrested and deported back to the conditions they were fleeing, if they make it at all?

Of course, those are our brothers and sisters we are talking about. They are dying during the month of May, Haiti's cultural month. On May 18, we'll be celebrating Haitian Flag Day, and our national motto "L'Union Fait La Force" ("Unity Makes Strength"). So, what should we do to manifest our brotherhood and solidarity, in a way to make a difference that will be real to their lives? (they, the most unfortunate, but part of "we, the Nation of Haiti")

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Post by Michel Nau » Mon May 07, 2007 1:35 pm

Aragorn wrote: [quote]Venezuela, right now at least, represents the best hope for Haiti: Hugo Chavez proposed a new chemical plant and oil refinery to process oil sent to Haiti from Venezuela: [/quote] Peyi d'Ayiti ki deja yon zonn ki shaje avek pwoblem environman, polisyon, pousye, tibekiloz, fatra e tout lot move maladi ki egziste sou late beni, pou misye Chavez vinn mete yon izinn shimik rafineri petrol nan lakou lakay nou.
Poukisa li pa fe rafineri lakay li pito??
Petrol Venezuelyen an se yon petrol de nove kalite, nwa kou shabon, e epe kou labou.
Pou rafine petrol sa mande pou melanje e boule anpil pwodwi chimik e anpil polisyon ki pral pete fyel Ayisyen pi mal anko.
Si sete Amerikin ki te pran inisyativ sa pou mete yon izinn rafinaj petrol lakay nou, nou tout tap rele anmwe e mande anraje.
Min kom se gwo kapitalis Amerikin ki shazi Chavez kom koutye pou fe travay sal sa, nou tout kouri aksepte.
Ala ti neg remin fe tintin.
Guy wrote: [quote]Should Haitians be granted Temporary Protected Status (TPS) due to the ecological, environmental, and economic disasters back home? If yes, what steps should be taken to apply maximum pressure on U.S. Legislators? [/quote] Due to Ecological and environmental disaster!!
Se nou menm etan ke pep e dirijan malfwinding nou yo ki kreye pwoblem sa yo!!.
Guy wap viv nan New Jersey e w konnin tre byen ke gen anpil rafineri petwol sou tout rout NJ turnpike la.
Ki benefis ke NJ jwen o poyen de vi environman e ekolojikal??
Kom di lot kamarad la. KK je pa linet!!
Sa pa tout sa w we pou kwe!!

Ban nou yon ti limye souple.

Michel

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Post by Guysanto » Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm

Michel, mwen byen konnen se esprè w fè ki fè ou reponn konsa. Mwen konnen tout taktik ou deja anplwaye sou fowòm lan deja, pou w foure nan bouch moun sa yo pa janm di. Men mwen toujou gen lespwa ke tout moun va vini yon jou diskite sou fowòm lan ak bòn fwa. Si se pa sa, pito fowòm lan fèmen e si fowòm lan pa itil ankò, mwen pap gen pwoblèm ak sa.

[quote]Pou rafine petrol sa mande pou melanje e boule anpil pwodwi chimik e anpil polisyon ki pral pete fyel Ayisyen pi mal anko.
Si sete Amerikin ki te pran inisyativ sa pou mete yon izinn rafinaj petrol lakay nou, nou tout tap rele anmwe e mande anraje.
Min kom se gwo kapitalis Amerikin ki shazi Chavez kom koutye pou fe travay sal sa[??????], nou tout kouri aksepte.[/quote]
Michel, ak ki nou w'ap pale???

Michel, m'ap repete ankò, ak ki "nou" w'ap pale???

Fòk ou klè wi, paske se pa konsa dyalòg fèt.

Aragorn ekri sa li vle (oumenm ou toujou ekri sa ou vle), men mwen poko wè kote "nou" sa soti ki te rantre nan pawòl Aragorn te ekri a.

Men sa pa anpeche w kouri akize tout moun alawonnbadè. Tire plon gaye pou wè ki ti zwèzo ou va touye.

Mwen pèsonèlman, mwen pa konn nada nan zafè rafinaj petwòl k'ap pale la. Petèt se bèl pawòl voye anlè pou fè ayisyen eksite. Nan ven dènye ane yo, kantite peyi ofri Ayiti kantite lajan ak envestisman ki pa janm debouche a bon pò. Alò ou panse mwen pral eksite chak fwa mwen wè yon chodyè nèf? Michel, sanble ou panse tout moun se enbesil eksepte oumenm.

Anvan mwen ta pwononse m sou zafè rafinaj petwòl an Ayiti, fòk mwen ta wè kèk analiz anvan, kèk pwojeksyon sou efè sa kab genyen sou devlòpman ekonomik peyi a, ki enpak ekolojik pwojè sa sou anviwonman peyi a. Mwen pa yon ekspè nan bagay sa yo, men mwen renmen li sa moun ki pi save pase m kab di sou bagay sa yo, olye mwen kouri pale tankou moun sou.

Ofèt jiskaprezan pa gen moun ki di ni krik ni krak nan koze a, men ou kouri di "nou tout kouri aksepte". Evidans lan, Michel?

Epi Michel, se yon kesyon mwen te poze. Sijè konvèsasyon sa, li pat yon kesyon de rafinaj petwòl. Sijè a se "At least 20 Hatians killed by sharks". Maten an, mwen li yon "update" ki di se 46 ayisyen yo deja twouve ki mouri deja nan aksidan sa, men y'ap chache yon pakèt lòt toujou. Gen de twa semèn de sa, menm tip aksidan sa te rive e anvan sa ankò... Mwen wè ki mezi Etazini te pran pou yo te pwoteje refijye ki soti Honduras, El Salvador, ak Nicaragua, lò yo te sibi dezas anviwonman lakay yo. Yo te ba yo TPS (Temporary Protected Status). Men sou chapit sa, Etazini pa janm fè anyen pou ayisyen. Alò mwen mande vizitè ki vin sou fowòm lan, ki sa yo panse, asavwa eske Ayisyen ta fèt pou resevwa TPS tou. KOUTE NON BÒS PAPA: Ale reli ankò, se yon kesyon mwen te poze pou mwen mennen yon diskisyon. Ou kab di si ou dakò, oswa si ou pa dakò. Ou kab rete sou bit pa di anyen tou, kòm majorite moun sou fowòm lan. Sa pa deranje m ankò. Men ou pa gen dwa vin mete pawòl nan bouch mwen. Mwen pa te janm rantre nan pawòl petwòl la.

Si ou pa kapab respekte sa yon moun di e sa li pa di, san ou pa vin foure plis pawòl nan bouch moun lan, pap gen okenn rezon pou yon moun pale avèk ou ankò.

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Post by Michel Nau » Tue May 08, 2007 11:29 am

Guy mwen konnin ke tit sije a se zafe Ayisyen kap pran bato e mouri nan lanme.

Min w vinn paret avek yon zafe ekoloji, environman etc. e a koz de sa W mande si Ayisyen yo te fet pou gen TPS nan min Amerikin menm jan avek lot peyi yo ki gen dezas natirel lakay yo.

Si Chavez mete rafinery petrol labou nwa li a nan peyi d'Ayiti, polisyon avek vye lafimin nwa tombe pete fyel Ayisyen, fok nou gen kouraj pou nou mande Venezuela pou bay TPS ou byen dedomajman a travaye Ayisyen yo??.

Pou'm tounin sou zafe moun ki mouri nan bato yo, govenman Preval/Alexis a pa dispoze lajan pou fe repatriye 36 ko moun sa yo ke yo jwen mouri yo.

Menm fanmi moun yo di ke yo pa gen lajan pou fe anteman moun sa yo ki mouri yo.

Bagay la di lakay nou!!
An nou kite politik. e an nou komanse fe zev de sharite pito.

Bay piti pa shich!!

Michel

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Post by Leoneljb » Tue May 08, 2007 2:32 pm

M pa't vle antre nan diskisyon an. Men, mwen pa wE kote Aragorn mansyone ke yo pwal fE youn plant petwOl an Ayiti non.
Li mansyone ke ya'p process oil to be sent to Haiti...
Anyway, an nou rete sou sijE'a.
Leonel

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